What would mixing different radioactive materials do?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the interactions that might occur when mixing various radioactive materials, specifically focusing on the chemical and potential nuclear interactions among elements such as Barium, Polonium, Cesium, Europium, Strontium, and Uranium. The scope includes chemical properties, reactions, and the nature of radioactivity in mixtures.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the nature of interactions between different radioactive materials, suggesting that chemical properties will play a significant role.
  • One participant proposes that Barium and Polonium might form barium polonide, indicating potential chemical interactions.
  • Another participant asserts that interactions will primarily be chemical, with no nuclear reactions unless fissile isotopes are involved.
  • Concerns are raised about the sanity of mixing random radioactive elements without a clear purpose.
  • There is mention of the chemical similarities among lanthanides and actinides, suggesting that their interactions may not yield interesting properties.
  • One participant emphasizes that radioactivity remains constant regardless of temperature or pressure, while chemical reactions depend on various conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature and significance of the interactions among the radioactive materials. There is no consensus on whether any interesting chemical reactions would occur or the implications of mixing these elements.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion is limited by assumptions about the conditions under which the materials are mixed, such as concentration and environmental factors. The complexity of chemical interactions among heavy elements is also acknowledged.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the chemical properties of radioactive materials, those studying nuclear chemistry, or anyone curious about the interactions of lanthanides and actinides.

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If I was to throw together I variety of radioactive materials into a pot, what would be the interaction between the different materials? If I threw together Barium and Polonium, what would happen? What if I added Cesium, Europium, and Strontium to the mix? What about throwing in Uranium? Will anything happen besides our giant blob of radioactive soup becoming more radioactive?
 
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COWilliam said:
If I was to throw together I variety of radioactive materials into a pot, what would be the interaction between the different materials? If I threw together Barium and Polonium, what would happen? What if I added Cesium, Europium, and Strontium to the mix? What about throwing in Uranium? Will anything happen besides our giant blob of radioactive soup becoming more radioactive?
One would have to look at the chemical properties of the elements.

Barium, cesium, europium and strontium, all have stable isotopes, but I think one is referring to the radioactive isotopes.

Polonium is chemically similar to tellurium or selenium, and strontium and barium form tellurides, SrTe and BaTe, so one would expect that Ba and Po would form barium polonide. Tellurides and selenides form semiconductors.

I'm not sure why one would to simply at Cs, Eu and Sr to a mix.
 
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COWilliam said:
If I was to throw together I variety of radioactive materials into a pot, what would be the interaction between the different materials?

There will be just normal chemical interactions, nothing "nuclear" (unless you drop in fissile isotopes and form a critical mass). Each radioactive isotope will continue to decay as it was doing it alone.
 
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COWilliam said:
...Barium and Polonium... Cesium, Europium, and Strontium ...Uranium...
Quite a Hot Pot, but I would not sit to that table, that's for sure...
 
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I was wondering about chemical reactions specifically.
 
Radioactivity is completely independent of temperature, pressure and/or chemical changes. But chemical reactions are not. So any chemical changes to the mixture would be dependent on the chemical nature of what was added and in what concentration and at what temperature, pressure, humidity, etc. All radioactivity would remain constant.

But if you're just throwing a bunch of random radioactive elements in a bowl to see what happens one might argue you should be more concerned about your own sanity than what might actually happen in the bowl. :)
 
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I'm just at the edge of my depth here, so my wording may be a little sloppy.

The OP is interested in chemical interactions of lanthanides and actinides.
These elements are so massive, their electron shells are relatively undifferentiated, so physical and chemical properties are all relatively similar. They're chemically hard to separate from each other and so they're often considered simply as a set (i.e. "the lanthanides").

They might weakly combine chemically, but the bulk materials don't really have any interesting properties. All the really interesting chemistry happens with light molecules that have strong chemical interactions.
 
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