What’s gone wrong with my derivation of the Lorentz Factor?

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The discussion revolves around a derivation of the Lorentz factor, where the user mistakenly includes a positive term in the root instead of a negative one. Key points include the clarification that the left side of the equation pertains to a stationary frame while the right side relates to a moving frame. The user incorrectly assumes that the time taken for light to travel remains constant across both frames, which is highlighted as a fundamental error. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding time dilation and the relationship between the distances and times in different frames. The correct application of the Pythagorean theorem is also noted as essential for deriving the Lorentz factor accurately.
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Trying to derive the Lorentz factor
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Lorentz Factor
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I’ve gotten something that looks almost correct, but the expression in the root is 1 + v^2/c^2 instead of minus. I understand intuitively why my answer is wrong, but don’t know where mathematically. Could someone please help me see where I went wrong? Thank you!

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If any clarifications are needed, I’m more than happy to make them! I understand my work isn’t the cleanest looking.
 
ryan2 said:
If any clarifications are needed
You might reveal which variable is in which frame of reference ...

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BvU said:
You might reveal which variable is in which frame of reference ...

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The left hand side pertains to the stationary one, and the right to the moving one. The variable x represents the Lorentz factor(it should have been on the right). D1 is common between the two, and I simplified it to c*t.
 
ryan2 said:
I simplified it to c*t.
What is t ?
 
Sagittarius A-Star said:
What is t ?
The time it takes for light to make it from the bottom to the top of the vertical distance, from a stationary frame. Is it incorrect to assume it would remain the same for the moving frame?
 
ryan2 said:
The time it takes for light to make it from the bottom to the top of the vertical distance, from a stationary frame. Is it incorrect to assume it would remain the same for the moving frame?
It is incorrect.

In your first (left) diagram, light travels a distance D at speed v [edit - that should of course say 'at speed c'] So you can find how long it takes.

In your second (right) diagram, light travels a distance bigger than D - but at the same speed (since the speed of light is constant). So the time taken is longer than for the first diagram.

Read about 'time dilation'.
 
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ryan2 said:
Is it incorrect to assume it would remain the same for the moving frame?
Yes. The light moves with ##c## along the diagonal path. In a light-clock the light-pulse moves forth and back between the mirrors within one period of the clock, so I call 1/2 of this period of the moving clock ##t_m##. Analog for the stationary clock: ##t_s##.

##c^2{t_s}^2 + v^2{t_m}^2 = c^2 {t_m}^2## (theorem of Pythagoras)

##\gamma = t_m / t_s##
 
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