What's the widest ratio range for a CVT?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the range of speed ratios for continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) suitable for a human-powered vehicle. Participants explore practical limits, design considerations, and specific examples of CVTs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the widest speed ratio range for a lightweight and cost-effective CVT for a human-powered vehicle.
  • Another participant cites the Nuvinci CVT with a ratio range of 0.5 to 1.75 and suggests that this can be extended with additional concepts.
  • A different participant mentions a design based on a CVT with a ratio from 1/3 to 3, expressing uncertainty about its practicality and openness to wider ranges.
  • One participant asserts that CVT designs are not inherently limited in gear ratio by their operational principles, but rather by their specific design parameters.
  • Another participant lists specific pulley ratios for the Comet CVT 790 and 770 series, indicating their suitability for mini-baja applications and noting their relative affordability and compactness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the practicality and design limitations of CVTs, with no consensus on the optimal ratio range or the inherent characteristics of CVTs.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight assumptions about the weight, cost, and reliability of CVTs, which may affect the applicability of their suggestions. The discussion includes specific examples that may not cover all potential CVT designs.

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Individuals interested in human-powered vehicle design, engineering students, and those exploring CVT technology may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi!

I'm designing a human powered vehicle and I need to use a CVT (Continuously variable transmission) in its drive line. I want to know the widest range that the speed ratio of a normal CVT (One that's not very big, heavy, or expensive because our vehicle needs to be as light and cheap as possible) could fall in. Can anyone help?
 
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The Nuvinci is .5 under to 1.75 over. With the addition of some common concepts that can be extended dramatically. How much range are you after?
 
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The more the merrier! Actually, my design so far is based on a CVT with a ratio varying from 1/3 to 3, but I don't know if this is practical or not, and I can still use a range wider than that.
 
Most CVT designs are not limited in a gear ratio based on their principle of operation. Like most transmissions, your gear ratio range is only limited by what it is designed for.

BTW, CVTs are by their nature big, expensive, and heavy. You can also add high maintenance and less reliable to that list as well.
 
This is off a flier from Quality Drive Systems concerning the Comet CVT 790 series

Pulley Ratios:
High: .54:1
Low: 3.38:1

and for 770 series
Pulley Ratios:
High: .76:1
Low: 3.95:1

Hope this is the info you're looking for.

Comet CVTs are relatively inexpensive and small, it's what we use for our mini-baja applications.
 

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