Can a Universe with a Lone Star Survive without an Absorber?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of the Wheeler-Feynman absorber theory in the context of a hypothetical universe with only one star. Participants explore whether such a universe could effectively rid itself of energy without an absorber, considering the nature of light emission and the effects of an expanding universe.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that without an absorber, there would be no emission, raising questions about energy dissipation in a universe with a lone star.
  • Another participant counters that some interpretations might not agree with the idea of suppressed light emission, especially in the context of an accelerating and expanding universe.
  • A proposal for an experiment is presented, involving entangled photons and detectors, to test the implications of light emission into deep space without absorption.
  • The same participant speculates that if the proposed analysis holds, it could imply the possibility of faster-than-light signaling, which they believe would lead to a null result in the experiment.
  • A follow-up question is raised regarding the practical challenges of directing photons into a void to prevent absorption.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether a universe with a lone star could emit light without an absorber. There is no consensus on the implications of the Wheeler-Feynman absorber theory, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of light emission, the role of absorbers, and the conditions of an expanding universe. The proposed experiment relies on specific conditions that may not be universally accepted.

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I have been reading today about the Wheeler-Feymann absorber theory and it occurred to me that it there was no absorber there would be no emission. What would this mean for a universe that has only one star? Would it be able to rid itself of energy or not?
 
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I have discussed this with a number of others here. They felt that this situation would not occur, ie that there would be no suppression of light emission into free space.

I am not so sure that all interpretations would say the same thing. Specifically: if we live in an accelerating and expanding universe, the Milky Way will eventually become a lonely galaxy. Even now, there are substantial volumes of space which cannot ever receive light we send out today because it is receding faster than a critical amount.

I personally believe that an experiment can demonstrate that to be either true or false. I might bet on a null result, but who knows?
 
The experiment would be as follows: Alice and Bob each receive an entangled photon, and each has a beam splitter and detectors oriented such that:

Alice's Detector 1 goes off with Bob's Detector 1
Alice's Detector 2 goes off with Bob's Detector 2
Bob's 2 detectors go off equally often.

If Alice re-routes her Detector 1 stream* instead to far deep space (where it can never be absorbed), then Bob's Detector 1 cannot go off in those cases (due to conservation considerations). A change in the ratio of clicks at Bob's 1 and 2 detectors would be evident. That is because Detector 1 would click less than before.

Now keep in mind that were this analysis correct, you could also perform FTL signalling from Alice to Bob. So that is a strong indicator that a null result would be forthcoming.


*And this stream is obviously no longer going to Detector 1.
 
Thank you. I would imagine that aiming them exactly into a void region would be highly problematic. Is there any other way to prevent a photon being absorbed?
 

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