When an elevator moves upwards with an acceleration

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The discussion revolves around the physics of an elevator moving with acceleration, specifically focusing on the equations governing tension in the cable. Participants are exploring the relationships between tension, weight, and acceleration in both upward and downward movements of the elevator.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish equations for tension during upward and downward acceleration but expresses uncertainty about their correctness. Some participants suggest using Free Body Diagrams and the net force equation, while others question the role of normal force in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on drawing Free Body Diagrams and applying the net force equation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the relationship between tension and normal force, and while some clarity is emerging, no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an ongoing examination of assumptions related to the definitions of tension and normal force.

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When an elevator moves upwards with an acceleration, what is the equation for tension?

Is it T+W =ma?

When an elevator moves downwards with an acceleration, would the equation be

T+W=-ma?

Thats all. Thanks.

I really can't figure it out. All I know is that the equations T-mg=ma (for upwards) and T-mg=-ma (downwards) are wrong.



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Draw a Free Body Diagram for each case. Use Fnet=ma .
 


N = mg + ma if the elevator has an upward acceleration
N = mg - ma if the elevator has a downward acceleration

Would tension be the same as normal force in this situation?
 


For this problem, what is the normal force being used for?

Draw a Free Body Diagram for each case. Use Fnet=ma .
 


SammyS said:
For this problem, what is the normal force being used for?

Draw a Free Body Diagram for each case. Use Fnet=ma .

I got the problem right. Thanks for your help!
 

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