When do you use In or log in Integrals?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of ln in integrals and clarifies that the integral of sin(x) is -cos(x)+C, not ln|cos(x)|+C. It is then determined that the integral of tan(x) is -ln|cos(x)|+C, and this is supported by finding the derivative of ln|cos(x)|.
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When do you use ln in integrals?
 
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One of the things you should have learned early is that
[tex]\int \frac{1}{x}dx= ln|x|+ C[/tex]

[itex]\int sin(x) dx[/itex] is, as you first say, - cos(x)+ C. It is certainly NOT equal to "ln|cos(x)|+ C. I don't know why you would even suggest that.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
One of the things you should have learned early is that
[tex]\int \frac{1}{x}dx= ln|x|+ C[/tex]

[itex]\int sin(x) dx[/itex] is, as you first say, - cos(x)+ C. It is certainly NOT equal to "ln|cos(x)|+ C. I don't know why you would even suggest that.

Sorry ln|cos(x)|+ C+ must be the integral of tan(x) then.
 
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pillar said:
Sorry ln|cos(x)|+ C+ must be the integral of tan(x) then.
Almost. If you let u= cos(x) then du= -sin(x)dx so
[tex]\int tan(x)dx= \int\frac{sin(x)}{cos(x)}dx= -\int \frac{du}{u}=-ln|u|+ C= -ln|cos(x)|+ C[/tex]
 
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BTW, the shorthand form is not In--it is ln, an abbreviation for logarithmus naturalis, Latin for natural logarithm.
 
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Just find the derivative of ln|cos(x)| and you will be sure, what the correct integral is.

[-ln|cos(x)| ]'=(-ln(u))'u'=(-1/cos(x))*(-sin(x))=sin(x)/cos(x)=tan(x) :smile:

So [itex]\int{tan(x)}=-ln|cos(x)|+C[/itex].
 

1. When do you use "in" versus "log" in integrals?

The use of "in" versus "log" in integrals depends on the type of integral being solved. "In" is typically used for definite integrals, where the limits of integration are specified. "Log" is used for indefinite integrals, where the constant of integration is included in the solution.

2. How do you know when to use "in" or "log" in integrals?

You can determine when to use "in" or "log" in integrals by looking at the given problem and identifying whether it is a definite or indefinite integral. If the problem includes specific limits of integration, then "in" should be used. Otherwise, "log" should be used.

3. Can "in" and "log" be used interchangeably in integrals?

No, "in" and "log" cannot be used interchangeably in integrals. They have different meanings and are used in different types of integrals. Using the wrong notation can result in an incorrect solution.

4. How do you write "in" and "log" in integrals?

"In" is typically written as a subscript after the integral symbol, followed by the limits of integration. For example, ∫ab f(x) dx. "Log" is typically written as the symbol for logarithm (ln or log) followed by the integrand. For example, ∫ ln(x) dx or ∫ log(x) dx.

5. Are there any rules for when to use "in" or "log" in integrals?

Yes, there are some general rules for when to use "in" or "log" in integrals. "In" is used for definite integrals, while "log" is used for indefinite integrals. Additionally, "in" is typically used for integration with respect to a specific variable, while "log" is used for integration with respect to a function.

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