When Does a Bouncing Ball Come to Rest?

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The problem involves a ball dropped from a height that bounces off the ground with inelastic collisions, characterized by a constant of restitution, \mu. The original poster is tasked with finding the total time it takes for the ball to come to rest after multiple bounces.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive a formula for the time taken for each bounce and considers the implications of a convergent geometric series. They express uncertainty about the complexity of the resulting series. Some participants suggest focusing on the time to reach the ground after each bounce rather than the height.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to calculate the time for the ball to reach the ground after each bounce. Some guidance has been offered regarding simplifying the problem by focusing on time rather than height, and there is acknowledgment of the geometric sequence that arises from the time calculations.

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There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the setup of their equations and the complexity of the series they derived. The discussion includes considerations of the assumptions made about the motion of the ball and the nature of the bounces.

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Homework Statement


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A ball is dropped and falls to the floor (no horizontal velocity). It hits the floor and bounces with inelastic collisions. The velocity after each bounce is \mu times the velocity of the previous bounce (here \mu is the constant of restitution). The velocity of the first bounce is just v_0. Find the time it takes for the ball to stop bouncing.

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Well:
I know this will turn into a convergent geometric series. I am just trying to find what that series will look like.

using the formula h=x_0+v_0t+1/2at^2 its easy to see that the time it takes for the ball to reach the ground is:

h=1/2gt^2 so t=\sqrt{2h/g}.
Using energy I also have: mgh=1/2mv_0^2 so gh=1/2v_0^2

Time for the next bounce: well, the ball now has an upward velocity of \mu v_0 and the height of the first bounce is h'=\mu v_0t-1/2gt^2.

I realize this is a simple problem but for some reason I'm not seeing it. If I solve this equation for time, (using quadratic formula) the resulting series for the times t=t_1+t_2+... isn't geometric and actually quite complicated. Is my approach right?
 
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Hi,
You don't want the height of the next bounce, but the time for the ball to reach the ground again. Easier to solve, too!
 
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I solved the quadratic for the time. Is this not the right approach?
 
Should lead to the same answer - with a lot more work.
What did you use for ##h'## ?
 
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Should lead to the same answer - with a lot more work.

Ahh, I see what you mean. So after the first bounce, I have:

Time for ball to reach ground again: 0= \mu v_0 -1/2gt^2 solvig for t yields: 2 \mu v_0/g so

t_1 =2 \mu v_0/g

Time for ball the reach the ground the third time:

t_2= 2 (\mu)^2 v_0/g
and so on. Is this the right direction?
 
And there you have your geometric sequence !
Make sure you have the right summation: the first t is only 'half a bounce'
 

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