When to hyphenate and when not to hyphenate?

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The discussion revolves around the rules and conventions of hyphenation in English, particularly in the context of copy editing. Participants explore specific examples, such as "federally funded program" and "red-rimmed glasses," while questioning the grammatical implications of hyphenating or not hyphenating certain terms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that "federally funded program" does not require a hyphen because "federally" is an adverb qualifying the adjective "funded," making the meaning clear.
  • Others argue that "federal funded program" could imply that the program itself is federal and funded, while "federal-funded" indicates a specific type of funding.
  • There is a discussion about the role of hyphens in adjective-adjective-noun sequences, where the presence of a hyphen can change the meaning of the phrase.
  • One participant notes that an adverb can modify not only verbs but also adjectives and other adverbs, which complicates the hyphenation rules.
  • Examples such as "never-to-be-forgotten day" and "red-rimmed glasses" are used to illustrate different grammatical constructions and their implications for hyphenation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of hyphenation in specific examples, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations.

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Participants reference specific grammatical rules and examples, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the application of these rules to various contexts.

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I do a fair amount of amateur copy editing and often come across terms that look to me like they should be hyphenated, but what's the rule on that? (My Strunk & White is packed away.)

I just saw a TV commercial that talked about "a federally funded program". I might consider hyphenating that, but is there more to it than just personal preference?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
I do a fair amount of amateur copy editing and often come across terms that look to me like they should be hyphenated, but what's the rule on that? (My Strunk & White is packed away.)

I just saw a TV commercial that talked about "a federally funded program". I might consider hyphenating that, but is there more to it than just personal preference?
You don't have to hyphenate in that case because federally is an adverb and, in this case, qualifies the adjective funded. It's unambiguous, therefore, that it's the funding that's federal.

If you had "federal funded program", then the program would be federal and funded. Whereas, a "federal-funded" programme is not necessarily federal but is funded federally.

PS although grammatically it would be better to take a different example. Such as "red-rimmed glasses"; as opposed to "poorly fitting glasses".
 
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So, in an adjective-adjective-noun sequence, the hyphen indicates that adjective-1 qualifies only adjective-2, and not the noun...

"red rimmed glasses" denotes glasses that are both red and rimmed
"red-rimmed glasses" denotes glasses that are merely rimmed with red

(Though, I guess, to be pedantic, the former should be "red, rimmed glasses"?)

And you're saying "federally-funded program" is redundant because "federally" is an adverb and thus can only apply to the verb "funded".
 
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And you're saying "federally-funded program" is redundant because "federally" is an adverb and thus can only apply to the verb "funded".
An adverb may describe not only a verb, but an adjective or another adverb. E.g.

Terribly hot day.

He talked very quietly.

Ps "funded" here is a verbal adjective.
 
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One of my favourite grammatical constructions is the adjectival phrase. E.g. on that never-to-be-forgotten day".
 
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I use Grammarly and it gave the following

never-to-be-forgotten day
federally funded program
federal funded program; although recommended changing federal to federally.
red-rimmed glasses
 
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