When Will the Curse of the Medicine Man Wipe Out a Tribe?

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Homework Statement


This is a interesting (morbid) problem from Simmons- Calculus with Analytic Geometry.
In a certain barbourous land, two neighbouring tribes have hated one another from time immemorial. Being barbourous peoples, their powers of belief are strong, and a solemn curse pronounced by the medicine man of the first tribe deranges and drives them to murder and suicide. If the rate of change of the population P of the second tribe is ##-\sqrt{P}## per week, and if the population is 676 when the curse is uttered, when will they all be dead?

Intial Conditions
##P(0) = 676##

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



##\frac{dP}{dt} = -\sqrt{t} = -t^{1/2} ##.

Separating the differential equation,

##dP = -t^{1/2}dt ##,

Then, by intergrating,

##\int dP = - \int t^{1/2}dt ##

##P = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}+ C ##...(1)

Solving for C at t= (0) or P(0) weeks, when the medicine man uttered his curse,

##676 = -\frac{2}{3} (0)^{3/2} + C ##,
##C = 676##.

Subbing this in (1)

##P = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}+ 676 ## ...(2)

Rearanging (2) for t, when P = 0 because the second tribe are all dead,

##0 = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}+ 676##,
##-676 = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}##,
##t = (\frac{2028}{2})^{2/3}= 100.93 = 101## weeks .

Is this correct. Or have I made a massive error? Seems like they need a more powerful medicine man...
 
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Charge2 said:

Homework Statement


This is a interesting (morbid) problem from Simmons- Calculus with Analytic Geometry.
In a certain barbourous land, two neighbouring tribes have hated one another from time immemorial. Being barbourous peoples, their powers of belief are strong, and a solemn curse pronounced by the medicine man of the first tribe deranges and drives them to murder and suicide. If the rate of change of the population P of the second tribe is ##-\sqrt{P}## per week, and if the population is 676 when the curse is uttered, when will they all be dead?

Intial Conditions
##P(0) = 676##

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



##\frac{dP}{dt} = -\sqrt{t} = -t^{1/2} ##.

Separating the differential equation,

##dP = -t^{1/2}dt ##,

Then, by intergrating,

##\int dP = - \int t^{1/2}dt ##

##P = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}d+ C ##...(1)

Solving for C at t= (0) or P(0) weeks, when the medicine man uttered his curse,

##676 = -\frac{2}{3} (0)^{3/2} + C ##,
##C = 676##.

Subbing this in (1)

##P = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}+ 676 ## ...(2)

Rearanging (2) for t, when P = 0 because the second tribe are all dead,

##0 = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}d+ 676##,
##-676 = -\frac{2}{3} t^{3/2}##,
##t = (\frac{2028}{2})^{2/3}= 100.93 = 101## weeks .

Is this correct. Or have I made a massive error? Seems like they need a more powerful medicine man...
Yes, you have made a massive error.

According to the OP, "the rate of change of the population P of the second tribe is ##-\sqrt{P}## per week", yet you have set your ODE = ##-\sqrt{t}##. Why is that?
 
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No, the equation you need is \frac{dP}{dt}=-\sqrt{P}
 
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Dang. I had this on my first attempt but it just looked wrong and unfamiliar, so played around with the equation, this was the first attempt,

##\frac{dP}{dt} = -\sqrt{P} = -P^{1/2} ##.
and rearanged it to,

##t = \int \frac{1}{-p^{1/2}}dP = ##.

Is that ok?
 
Charge2 said:
Dang. I had this on my first attempt but it just looked wrong and unfamiliar, so played around with the equation, this was the first attempt,

##\frac{dP}{dt} = -\sqrt{P} = -P^{1/2} ##.
and rearanged it to,

##t = \int \frac{1}{-p^{1/2}}dP = ##.

Is that ok?
Yep, that's what you should start with.
 
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Ok this is not working out,
##t = -2\sqrt{P} + C##
C = 52
##t = -2\sqrt{P} + 52##
##t = 0.##
 
Charge2 said:
t=−2P√+52
This is the correct solution. Substitute P=0 to find t.
 
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52 weeks... not a bad medicine man after all. I on the other hand, need to work more on ode magick.
 
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