Where do I learn different physics concepts?

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The discussion centers around the inquiry into learning about particle physics, particularly elementary particles and their interactions, within the context of high school education in Ontario, Canada. Participants explore the educational pathway and resources available for understanding more advanced physics concepts, including theoretical physics and the standard model.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a strong interest in particle physics but notes that their current high school curriculum is limited to basic concepts like vectors and does not cover the fundamental forces beyond gravity.
  • Another participant suggests that a solid foundation in lower-level physics is necessary before tackling particle physics, indicating that university courses would be more appropriate for deeper understanding.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the importance of self-study, highlighting the need for knowledge in mathematics and quantum physics to grasp the standard model, while also suggesting that learning about particle classification could be a reasonable short-term goal.
  • One participant mentions that in American universities, students typically begin studying advanced topics like particle physics in their junior year and continue through graduate school.
  • A suggestion is made to explore the Particle Adventure website as a resource for learning about particle classification.
  • The original poster expresses disappointment with their current physics class focus and considers self-study, acknowledging their limited mathematical background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that foundational knowledge is necessary for understanding particle physics, but there are differing views on the best approach to learning, including self-study versus formal education. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific timeline and resources for learning particle physics in high school versus university.

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Limitations include the original poster's current mathematical knowledge, which may affect their ability to engage with more complex physics topics. There is also a lack of consensus on the exact educational pathway and timing for learning particle physics.

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I am extremely interested in what I assume would be called particle physics. I want to learn all about basically elementary particles and their interactions, however in my high school physics course thus far we have only really gone over simple vectors and such. We aren't even learning about any of the three fundamental forces that aren't gravity (strong, weak and electromagnetic).
I'm wondering when in the education system (I'm in Ontario, Canada) there is a focus on the particle physics I'm talking about, or more 'theoretical' physics, or even more generally what are the main things taught in high school level physics.
Thanks in advance.
 
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I believe you'd need the foundation of the lower physics classes before you could really understand particle physics. University classes will be your best bet.

Be patient, grasshopper.
 
Self-study is your only real option. You will need to learn a lot of mathematics and quantum physics to understand where the standard model comes from and what the equations mean, but if you would be satisfied to learn about the particles and how they are classified then that is a reasonable short-term goal. I suggest the web as a good starting point, just search for "standard model."
 
Generally, in American universities, you will start getting into this other stuff probably your junior year of college (and continuing through grad school).
 
confinement said:
if you would be satisfied to learn about the particles and how they are classified then that is a reasonable short-term goal.

A good starting point for this is the Particle Adventure site, put together by the Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory.
 
Thank you, I just really didn't know what to expect when I enrolled in the physics class, and was rather disappointed when we concentrated on calculating displacements and such.
I suppose I might go into self study, although my current mathematical knowledge is rather limited.
Thanks to you all
 

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