Where does the energy of a discharged capacitor go?

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The discussion revolves around the fate of energy stored in a capacitor when it is discharged through a resistor. Participants explore the mechanisms of energy conversion during the discharge process, considering various forms of energy dissipation and the implications of circuit resistance.

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  • One participant suggests that not all energy from the capacitor is converted to heat, prompting inquiry into other possible forms of energy dissipation.
  • Another participant asserts that the energy stored in the capacitor is primarily utilized as heat in the resistor, while also noting that resistance in connecting wires and the capacitor itself contributes to energy loss as heat.
  • A participant questions the energy loss in a scenario where a charged capacitor is connected to an ideal wire with no resistance, raising the issue of energy conservation and potential differences in the circuit.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of considering the electrostatic nature of capacitors, suggesting that energy is associated with the separation of charges and the work done by the electric field during discharge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of energy dissipation during capacitor discharge, with some focusing on heat conversion and others exploring alternative energy forms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete fate of the energy.

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Participants highlight the significance of circuit resistance in energy calculations, indicating that assumptions about ideal components may overlook important factors affecting energy dissipation.

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Connect a resistor across a capacitor(which has its own energy) to discharge it. After the capacitor is fully discharged, we know that there is not any energy left on the capacitor. So, where does the energy of the capacitor go?
I think, not all of the energy goes to heat, so what are the other possibilities?
 
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The energy stored in the capacitor IS basically utilized as heat in the resistor.

Although not included in common calculations, the connecting wire also carries resistance and therefore a tiny,tiny amount of heat would be dissipated in the wire as well as the resistor. In fact a tiny amount of heat would also be created in the capacitor as well...as the plates would have some tiny,tiny resistance...and if the connecting wires sit in a loop in a lab on a table top one could argue a tiny,tiny amount of inductance would also be present. All these effects are normally negligible.

Another interesting situation: With a charged capacitor, no resistance in the circuit, a switch is closed...now there is "no charge" , no energy, where did all that energy go??
 
symsane said:
I think, not all of the energy goes to heat
Why not?

As far as other possibilities, electrical energy can be converted into any other kind of energy with the appropriate circuit element. Ideal resistors just convert energy to heat.
 
Naty1 said:
Another interesting situation: With a charged capacitor, no resistance in the circuit, a switch is closed...now there is "no charge" , no energy, where did all that energy go??
Seems like you can't write an equation unless you take into account resistance of the wires. It's basically the same "problem" as what happens when you connect an ideal wire across a voltage source. Between any two points on the wires, is there or is there not a potential difference?

The energy is the capacitor in the case you described is best answered by considering the electrostatic case. On the one hand, there is clearly energy in the separation of charges (the very concept of a capacitor), the E-field does work to pull opposite charges closer together and the energy of the new charge configuration decreases (of course the change in potential energy of the setup is converted to kinetic energy of the movement of the charges).
 

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