Where is the fifth energy level in relation to the fourth?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the fifth and fourth energy levels in atomic structure, specifically referencing their positions relative to the nucleus. Energy level five corresponds to n=5, while energy level four corresponds to n=4, indicating that the fifth energy level is further from the nucleus. There is some confusion regarding the orbital counts, with mentions of the 16th and 25th orbitals, which may not be accurate. The conversation touches on the Aufbau principle and the ambiguity of the original question, with a note that in general chemistry, n=5 is considered further out until d and f orbitals are introduced. The discussion also highlights the transition from classical to quantum mechanical models in chemistry, which complicates these distinctions. Additionally, there is a reference to a chart related to electron distribution, suggesting a need for visual aids in understanding these concepts.
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Where is the fifth energy level in relation to the fourth energy level? Well, it shows that energy level five is at n= 5 and energy level four is at n=4 away from the nucleus, so that means that the fifth energy level is at the 16th orbital and energy level four is at the 25th orbital?? I am not exactly sure how to answer this.
 
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http://www.aplusinhometutors.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/electron-shells.jpg
Electron-Shells.png

I forgot what this chart is called and my chem books are packed away so just draw a bohr model with it's sub shells and count them.
 
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Thankyou
 
thankz said:
I forgot what this chart is called

It shows Aufbau principle.

The original question - as asked - doesn't make much sense to me. "Where is" is so ambiguous I have no idea what this question really asks.
 
In general chem it is explained that n=5 is "further" out from the nucleus. This is generally true until the d and f orbitalscare discussed. These orbital are "further" from the nucleus than n=6s. In physical chem the quantum mechanical model takes over and these distinctions are somewhat less assured.
 
thankz said:
http://www.aplusinhometutors.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/electron-shells.jpg
Electron-Shells.png

I forgot what this chart is called and my chem books are packed away so just draw a bohr model with it's sub shells and count them.

Lewis electronic distribuition?
 
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TwistyBR said:
Lewis electronic distribuition?

Have you read the thread?
 
Borek said:
Have you read the thread?
Well, sorry
 
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