Which Book to Start With for Mathematical Self-Study: Rudin or Spivak?

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The discussion revolves around the optimal order for self-studying mathematical analysis using the books "Principles of Mathematical Analysis" by Rudin and "Calculus + Calculus on Manifolds" by Spivak. Participants explore the implications of their prior mathematical education and how it may influence their approach to these texts, with a focus on preparation for future coursework in analysis, topology, and differential geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to prepare for analysis and related topics, seeking advice on the order of reading Rudin and Spivak.
  • Another participant suggests that if the original poster's calculus education was rigorous, starting with Spivak's "Calculus" could be beneficial, possibly alternating with Rudin for a broader perspective.
  • A different participant mentions that they supplemented their analysis course with Spivak, implying a positive experience with that approach.
  • One participant decides to pursue Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds" first, finding it more engaging, and considers using Rudin as a supplementary text if time allows.
  • Another participant points out that "Calculus on Manifolds" covers material found in specific chapters of Rudin, suggesting that this might influence the order of study.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best order to study the texts, with differing opinions on whether to start with Spivak or Rudin. Multiple viewpoints regarding the sequence and the potential benefits of each book are presented.

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Participants reference their individual backgrounds in calculus and proof-writing, which may affect their recommendations. There is also mention of the specific content overlap between the books, which could influence the study order.

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Students preparing for advanced mathematics courses, particularly in analysis, topology, and differential geometry, may find this discussion relevant as they consider self-study resources.

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I want to do some self-study both over the summer and during the school year, and I've chosen my books. They are:

Rudin, Principles of Mathematical Analysis
Spivak, Calculus + Calculus on Manifolds

I will likely be taking a yearlong sequence starting next fall in analysis using Rudin, either that or a yearlong sequence in algebra using Artin (doing both simultaneously isn't an option at the math department here, apparently it backfires on everyone who tries it). I'd like to use my self-study to really prepare for analysis and exploring further topics like topology and differential geometry, also starting next fall through the spring. Overpreparation is completely acceptable.

My question: in what order should I read these books to get the most out of both?

My mathematical background, in case it matters:

My calculus background includes an honors sequence in multivariate calculus and ODE's. Unfortunately I can't name a book for you, because everything was taught out of my professor's custom notes, but the approach was very rigorous. The multivariate calculus wasn't on the level of Spivak, but made sure the calculus and the linear algebra was both taught completely to avoid handwaving what would normally be skipped in a regular calculus class. I am also reasonably proficient with mathematical formalism and proof-writing/reading, and did very well in an introduction to mathematical reasoning course in the fall. For a qualitative picture, I'm comfortable with the early chapters of Rudin I have read so far. Though I'm lost in Spivak's unfamiliar notation in the later chapters of Calculus on Manifolds, he seems to introduce everything very clearly (and there seems to be a consensus on this), so I'm not too worried. V.I. Arnold's Ordinary Differential Equations, on the other hand, is more intimidating.

Edit: Also, is anyone familiar with Elias Zakon's Mathematical Analysis? (Available for free for self-study at http://www.trillia.com/) Since I'll probably work with Rudin in the fall, it seems that maybe I'd get more out of seeing two different approaches to analysis. For that matter, is anyone familiar with the other three books on the site as well?
 
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If your calculus education was suitably rigorous with proofs and linear algebra, you may find Spivak's "Calculus" to be a good review. Try reading this one first, or alternate with appropriate chapters in Rudin for a wider view of the topic. Rudin will introduce you to some new tools for modern analysis and topology, which should keep you occupied and ground your understanding of the pure basis for calculus.
Spivak's "Calculus on Manifolds" will indeed give very precise definitions leading up to the notation of the last chapter, which provides an extremely elegant and concise introduction to the language of differential geometry. This can be learned independently of the previous two texts as long as you have a good grounding in calculus and linear algebra.
 
When I took Analysis, I sort of supplemented the course with Spivak.
 
Thank you both for your replies. I have decided to pursue Spivak's Calculus on Manifolds first, followed by Calculus with Rudin to supplement if time permits. (I should have fun over summer break, and Calculus on Manifolds looks the most entertaining.)
 
Calculus on manifolds covers the material of chapters 9 and 10 of Rudin, so if you do plan on doing both anyways you may wish to reconsider the order. Not that I'm implying that you need to read Rudin first, but that seems to be the logical order.
 

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