Which country will come out on top in the Canada vs. USA hockey game?

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The discussion centers around the intense rivalry between Canada and the USA in hockey, particularly during a recent game that sparked passionate opinions among fans. Canadian supporters expressed disappointment in their team's performance, noting that despite outshooting the USA, poor goaltending from Martin Brodeur contributed to their loss. Many highlighted the effectiveness of American goalie Ryan Miller, who made crucial saves, and praised the US defense for its strong performance. The conversation also touched on the overall intensity and excitement of the game, with fans discussing the implications for national pride and potential rematches in the tournament. There were critiques of both teams' defensive strategies, with some arguing that Canada's offensive talent did not translate into success on the ice. The thread reflects a deep engagement with hockey, showcasing the emotional stakes involved in international competition.
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Canada vs. USA! (Hockey)

Any of you hockey fans here EH? What you guys thinking about tonight game Canada vs USA? Being a Canadian I naturally am hoping that Canada kills the Americans in tonights game but I didn't feel they played exactly that great againt the Swiss...
 
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Well if this game goes anything like it did yesterday at Hockey Night in Kandahar, the US is going to lose.

But I have faith! Let's go USA!
 


what time is it on?
 


7pm Central time
 


7:40 est
 


Apparently the game is on MSNBC and I only have basic cable. Who's idea was that and why have they not been shot yet? Instead I get to watch ICE DANCING :mad:
 


Ohhhh thank you god I live near Canada, the Canadians have their priorities straight.
 


Of the powerhouses, I think that only the Americans and Swedes have not yet had a wakeup call after minimal-effort games against marginal opposition. Hopefully, this means that Canada brings their A game tonight! Otherwise, it might be Torino all over again...
 
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I don't usually watch hockey, but this is pretty exciting!
 
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I don't watch hockey that often either but this is great.
 
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These MSNBC commentators are awesome. My heart is busting out! USA up 3-2 in the second.
 
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hahhaa this is soooo exciting! back to back breakaways blocked
 
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It is great to see so much fire on the ice. A lot riding on this game, national pride wise!
 
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Wow Brodeur is making some STRANGE plays with the puck... really questionable. He's made a few terrific saves but we're out shooting the USA by far and there are 3 goals against...

I also think Canadas defense is playing kinda of lazy but the intensity on the offense is crazy... and the Canadian forechecking is pretty amazing too. Hopefully we can make up for that last goal in the third ... I think we can win it easily in a shootout.
 
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That is Brodeurs style though. Extremely hybrid. No question in my mind Canada would win in a shootout, it is where Brodeur shines, and Miller is pretty questionable in shootouts. Let's hope the US can hold the lead!
 
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MotoH said:
That is Brodeurs style though. Extremely hybrid. No question in my mind Canada would win in a shootout, it is where Brodeur shines, and Miller is pretty questionable in shootouts. Let's hope the US can hold the lead!

Nah Brodeurs style is handling the puck really well... not making questionable dives and trying to whack pucks out of mid air etc.
 
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Super fast-paced game.
 
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:cry:
 
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zomgwtf said:
Nah Brodeurs style is handling the puck really well... not making questionable dives and trying to whack pucks out of mid air etc.

He has dove for pucks his entire life! He played an excellent game as did Miller-time.
 
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Miller was incredible in the last 5 minutes or so.
 
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Great game. It would have been soooo exciting to be there in person!
 
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MotoH said:
He has dove for pucks his entire life! He played an excellent game as did Miller-time.

I've been a New Jersey fan my entire life and the way Brodeur played tonight was far from his spectacular old self. His game was definitely lacking tonight and I wouldn't be surprised if Luongo starts our next game against Germany.

Miller on the other hand had played an AMAZING game all night making great saves when the pressure was on. His control of the puck was insane team USA needs to thank him for the win in my opinion, not their own play, which was REALLY lacking. Team Canada outplayed USA offensively overall by far.

It really sucks that we lost this game but maybe we'll meet again in the finals! :wink:
 
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Brodeur should not have let in that Rafalski goal to get the lead back 2-1. What a punch to the gut that was. I agree that Brodeur was not on his game tonight. Good call about Luongo starting next game.

This was a good game, but it's not the finals. I hope there is a rematch. Russia looked pretty strong today against the Czech team. Ovechkin flattened Jagr. Awesome hit. Nice and clean.
 
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I'm a huge hockey fan. This game just goes to show once again that you don't need elite offense to win a hockey game, all you need is a good defense. On paper, the Canadian team should be one of the best offenses ever assembled in the history of hockey. However their defense isn't up to snuff. The US won this game with their VERY stingy defense. The US defense is vastly underrated because they aren't really offensive oriented defensemen who score lots of points. They are super defensive defensemen. They won't score a lot of points (except maybe Rafalski), but they block a TON of shots, throw LOTS of hits, and have very good hockey sense. Oh yeah, plus Ryan Miller is pretty dang good.The New Jersey Devils make the playoffs every year and have won a lot of cups on just defense and good goaltending alone. The years that they won the cup they didn't really have a lot of top notch goal scoring talent. Team Canada is stacked with a bunch of goal scoring prima donnas with a questionable blue line.
 
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Love my Michigan guys, Rafalski, Miller and Kessler. Great game.
 
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Nah I don't think that Team USA played very well defensively, they played better than Canada but it's not like Canada needs a good defense to beat team USA as they don't exactly play much of the game in their end... all they need is the goalie to be playing ... even a mediocre game, which Brodeur was far from tonight. Brodeur is my favorite player in hockey and I have to say that the majority of the blame for tonights loss can be attributed to mostly things he did.

Canadian forechecking was ripping the USA defense apart and I definitely saw team Canada make a lot more key shot blocks than USA... in the end it all came down to Canadian goaltending.
 
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The Canadian Defense was supposed to be well-rounded with defense-first mentality (albeit with healthy offensive abilities) hence leaving off guys like Mike Green and Dion Phaneuf (who I personally think is defensively atrocious, sacrificing positioning and common sense for a big hit or to try to jump into the play--he also hasn't been able to put up the types of offensive numbers he did when he first came into the league).

But I think it boils down to a lack of intensity and interest for large swaths of
the game (in this and the Swiss game) and an inability to transition the puck or even make a tape-to-tape pass in the offensive zone. All that coupled with the good but not spectacular goaltending that can make all the difference in a single elimination tournament like the Olympics.

Wait, is this PhysicsForums or HFBoards? Actually, more to the demographics of this board, why no SuperB--, er Big Game thread? Go Canuck Iceholes!
 
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What idiotic idea to held the Olympic Games in such a remote place. I am not going to shift my daily routine by 10 hours just to watch the hockey
 
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Is there any connection between this sport (?) "hockey", and Michael Mann's "hockey stick graph"?
:confused:
 
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Borek said:
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Okay, so these hockey games can become quite heated? :confused:
 
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And you think these sticks are just ornamental? If you select dozen young, strong, fast and aggressive males, if you split them into teams, put them on the ice, give them sticks and throw a puck at a random one, don't expect them to start singing psalms.
 
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Oh, does the hockey game involve brandishing the hard sticks of young, aggressive males?

I had no idea, when is the next match? :smile:
 
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Actually females show their sticks too:

http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-hockey-schedule-results/
 
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Borek said:
Actually females show their sticks too:

http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-hockey-schedule-results/

That's unnatural..
 
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LOL arildno and Borek.
 
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zomgwtf said:
LOL arildno and Borek.

Lol??

As in that Millie Small tune?
 
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Borek said:
Actually females show their sticks too:

http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-hockey-schedule-results/

I don't know if women's hockey will remain an Olympic sport since the Canadians (and to a slightly lesser extent, the Americans) can win at will. There was an outcry recently at the Olympics when the Canadian team beat up on the Slovaks 18-0, but the same Slovak team had destroyed Belarus 82-0 in a game the year prior.

I don't think I've been able to score that high even on NHL 2007!
 
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MATLABdude said:
I don't know if women's hockey will remain an Olympic sport since the Canadians (and to a slightly lesser extent, the Americans) can win at will. There was an outcry recently at the Olympics when the Canadian team beat up on the Slovaks 18-0, but the same Slovak team had destroyed Belarus 82-0 in a game the year prior.

I don't think I've been able to score that high even on NHL 2007!

82-0? More than one goal per minute? That's barely enough time to have the center ice faceoff, skate to the goal, and shoot it in the net. Did Belarus pull their goalie for the entire game? :eek:
 
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Borg said:
82-0? More than one goal per minute? That's barely enough time to have the center ice faceoff, skate to the goal, and shoot it in the net. Did Belarus pull their goalie for the entire game? :eek:


It is a lot of skating, but it can happen. 2 goals within 5 seconds of each other has happened before.

Bad goaltending and a bad team!
 
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MotoH said:
It is a lot of skating, but it can happen. 2 goals within 5 seconds of each other has happened before.

Bad goaltending and a bad team!

That's kind of an understatement, no? :biggrin:

Okay, Thursday 3:30 PST Women's Olympic hockey gold medal round, Canada vs. US. I guess I'm leaving work early on Thursday. I got to watch the Canadian Women's National Hockey Team play an exhibition game locally prior to the Olympics. Oh wow are they impressive to see live and in colour.

So. Canada vs. USA (Hockey) again!
 
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They actually beat bulgaria not belarus.
 
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MotoH said:
It is a lot of skating, but it can happen. 2 goals within 5 seconds of each other has happened before.

Bad goaltending and a bad team!

Yes, I've seen that before. I've never heard of it going on for anything close to 60 minutes though.
 
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Take it easy, 60 minutes at 5 sec per goal gives 720:0, we are talking about 82:0 only.
 
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Borek said:
Take it easy, 60 minutes at 5 sec per goal gives 720:0, we are talking about 82:0 only.

Of course when you put it that way, it's much better. :smile:

I had to look this up. How embarrassing.
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/news/story?id=3577150"

The second paragraph states that this isn't even the record. Thailand lost 92-0 to South Korea in the 1998 Asia-Oceania U18 Championship.
 
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Borg said:
82-0? More than one goal per minute? That's barely enough time to have the center ice faceoff, skate to the goal, and shoot it in the net. Did Belarus pull their goalie for the entire game? :eek:

No, but, ironically, Slovakia could have. Slovakia outshot Bulgaria 139-0.

Scores like that are why you need fighting in hockey. You didn't have a fight break out in that game until there were only about 10 seconds left in the game - and that in response to a brutal hit from behind by a Slovakian player.

"What the Slovaks did to us was kind-of an insulting mockery, and is not at all sportsmanlike", the Chair of the Bulgarian Hockey Federation Dobromir Krustev commented after the game.


That was an Olympic qualifying tournament and Bulgaria might have been demoralized by time of the Slovakia game. They had lost their earlier games 30-1, 39-0, and 41-0.

Supposedly, there were only 37 spectators for that game. How often do you see more goals than spectators? http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=96794

Back when I coached a division 4 girl's soccer team, we lost to the best girl's team in the state in an indoor game 21-0. I thought that was pretty bad. Fortunately, they moved over to the boy's division the next session. They beat a division 4 boy's team 22-0. Their coach was really ticked. He felt the referee was letting the girls get away with overly physical play just because they were girls. And I was supposed to keep from laughing when all I could think of us was, "They beat you worse than they beat us! They beat you worse than they beat us! They beat you worse than they beat us!"
 
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Well Canada faces Russia tomorrow. To be honest this game is MORE important than vs. Team USA. Most Canadians don't really care about beating Team USA other than we get to brag... but most Americans don't really care much for hockey anyways or they pull the 'it's your sport' card. (Funny how they beat us and MANY are talking loads of trash).

But Russia on the other hand has had a HUGE rivalry with Canada in hockey and they love it just as much as we do :smile:. Hopefully we get a rematch against America after though.As an aside anyone here watch the Slovakia v. Norway game? What happened to Bartecko was definitely scary, the entire time I was just thinking I hope he will be ok.
 
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