Which Diagram Represents Concurrent Forces?

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The discussion centers on identifying the correct diagram for concurrent forces, with participants debating the nature of the diagrams presented. One diagram shows forces directed towards a circle, while the other shows forces directed away, leading to confusion about their classification as concurrent forces. It is clarified that concurrent forces are defined by their lines of action intersecting at a single point, regardless of their direction. The conversation highlights the importance of context, such as whether the forces are acting on a rigid body or a deformable one. Ultimately, the participants aim to enhance understanding of the concept rather than simply solve a homework problem.
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Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces? The left or the right one ?

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Both diagrams are identical.
 
BvU said:
Both diagrams are identical.
no , one is all the forces acted towards the circle , the another one is forces away from the circle..Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces?
 
Ah, so there is a context.
My answer was based on the idea that a force can be moved along its line of action.
Apparently the circle represents something that can be deformed so that the above rule doesn't apply any more ?
 
BvU said:
Ah, so there is a context.
My answer was based on the idea that a force can be moved along its line of action.
Apparently the circle represents something that can be deformed so that the above rule doesn't apply any more ?
assuming they are the similar circle , no deformation occur (rigid body)Which is the correct diagram for concurrent forces?
 
Sorry, I still don't get what this is about. What are concurrent forces ? And what would those forces be if they were not concurrent ? Countercurrent ? Cooperative ?
 
Ah ! Google to the rescue. Concurrent means the lines of actions are going through one single point
 
Really a good source, this google search: both pictures are concurrent forces. One is compressive.

See here (simple google!)
 
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And now that we know what we are looking for: the inwards or outwards isn't the deciding factor. Protract the force lines and see if they go through one single point.

For experts only: the problem statement is incomplete if it doesn't state that the forces shown are coplanar !
 
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I like to be liked, but I like it even better when a student understands. Was this a homework exercise where you reconstructed the original picture and you now know which feature is the one that requires the most attention ?

And now that I know you can post a drawing :smile: -- how are we doing with the torque equilibrium exercise ?
 
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BvU said:
I like to be liked, but I like it even better when a student understands. Was this a homework exercise where you reconstructed the original picture and you now know which feature is the one that requires the most attention ?

And now that I know you can post a drawing :smile: -- how are we doing with the torque equilibrium exercise ?
no, this is not an exercise . I just don't understand the notes given by my lecturer , and i ask here
 
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I see. All clear now, I hope.
 
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