Which fuse should i use for a step down transformer

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The discussion revolves around selecting appropriate fuse ratings for a step-down transformer used in a project involving an electromagnet. Participants explore considerations for both primary and secondary fusing, addressing the ratings of the transformers and the loads they will support.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the appropriate fuse rating for a 230V step-down transformer with outputs of "12-0-12 1 amp" and "12-0-12 5 amp".
  • Another participant suggests starting with the maximum load on the secondary to determine the minimum fuse size, emphasizing the importance of fusing both primary and secondary sides.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the transformer specifications, confirming that the input is 230V and outputs are 12V at 1A and 5A.
  • It is noted that the primary should be fused appropriately if it lacks overcurrent protection, with recommendations for using a 1A fuse for the transformers if they are located at the controls.
  • Discussion includes the suggestion to use time-delay fuses for inductive loads, with a specific mention of Bussman FNQ-type fuses.
  • Some participants argue that while the fuse should not exceed the transformer’s secondary rating, it may be beneficial to use a smaller fuse based on the actual load requirements.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential overheating of wires used in the circuit, particularly with higher currents.
  • There is a suggestion that the primary circuit could also be fused with a slow-blow fuse to manage internal faults and high secondary currents.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the appropriate fuse sizes and the necessity of fusing both primary and secondary circuits. There is no consensus on a single recommended approach, as different perspectives on load considerations and safety measures are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the implications of using different fuse ratings based on transformer specifications and load characteristics, highlighting the importance of considering the specific application and potential risks associated with the circuit design.

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hello every one!
I'm working on a project to vibrate an iron string with an electromagnet.
I've a 230 v step down transformer with "12-0-12 1 amp" output and a 230 v "12-0-12 5 amp" output.
I'm confused with which FUSE should i go with. i have a 3 amp and a 5 amp fuse.
also I'm planning to use 2 fuse's one on the primary side and one on the secondary side, so which fuse rating should i use so as to not damage the transformer as well as the electromagnet.
any suggestions?? how do i calculate the required fuse rating?
thanks for the help!
 
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PJP said:
how do i calculate the required fuse rating?

Start with the max load you plan to put on the secondary. Choose the minimum size fuse that permits that load. Fusing both primary and secondary sides is a good idea.

PJP said:
I've a 230 v step down transformer with "12-0-12 1 amp" output and a 230 v "12-0-12 5 amp" output.

That sounds garbled. 230V input and 230V output? I'm not sure how to interpret that. Do you mean 230V in and 12V 1A out?
 
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anorlunda said:
Start with the max load you plan to put on the secondary. Choose the minimum size fuse that permits that load. Fusing both primary and secondary sides is a good idea.
That sounds garbled. 230V input and 230V output? I'm not sure how to interpret that. Do you mean 230V in and 12V 1A out?
yup, basically i have 2 step down transformers one with 24v 1amp (12-0-12) and other with 24v 5amps (12-0-12), both with input rated 230v. sorry for the mix up!
 
You need to fuse your primary if it will not have appropriate overcurrent protection. For this step-down transformer, a standard 15 or 20 amp circuit-breaker will not suffice. Are these transformers feeding remote wiring or will they be in the same enclosure?

If remote wiring fuse the the transformers for their max rating (1A and 5A respectively) and then fuse your loads at their location with an appropriately sized fuse.
If the transformers are going to sit at the location of the controls (as they should), then feed the transformers with a 1A fuse and the secondaries should be sized according to your load.

Given that you are dealing with inductive loads, you want time-delay fuses. Bussman FNQ-type are a good choice for this sort of loading.
 
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sparkie said:
an appropriately sized fuse.
Obvs the fuse shouldn't exceed the transformer secondary rating but it may be a good idea to use a smaller fuse if the load (possibly a flimsy bit of circuit board?) does not actually take 5A. The fuse is there to protect as much of the whole circuit as possible and people can often forget that the flimsy 'bell wire' that is often used can get pretty warm with only a ver few Amps- 5A at 12V is 60 steaming Watts! (Look at its spec, if in doubt)
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Obvs the fuse shouldn't exceed the transformer secondary rating but it may be a good idea to use a smaller fuse if the load (possibly a flimsy bit of circuit board?) does not actually take 5A. The fuse is there to protect as much of the whole circuit as possible and people can often forget that the flimsy 'bell wire' that is often used can get pretty warm with only a ver few Amps- 5A at 12V is 60 steaming Watts! (Look at its spec, if in doubt)

Thank you for the clarification. What I *really* mean by this is that he should use, at least, a fuse sized for the max secondary of the transformer, but it would be preferable to size the fuse according to the load rather than the transformer max.
 
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The primary circuit of the transformer should perhaps also be fused ( a few 100mAs slow blow) and that would take care of internal faults and high secondary currents.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
The primary circuit of the transformer should perhaps also be fused ( a few 100mAs slow blow) and that would take care of internal faults and high secondary currents.
thanks "sophiecentaur"
 

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