Why are the normal forces for the legs pointing downwards?

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Normal forces are contact forces that act perpendicular to the surfaces in contact, and in the case of legs, they point upwards to counteract the downward force of gravity. The discussion clarifies that there is no normal force at the center of mass; instead, the weight of the body is distributed across its entire structure. The total normal force is the sum of the forces at the hands and feet, which must balance the gravitational force for stability. The confusion arises from interpreting the direction of normal forces, which should always oppose the weight acting downwards. Understanding these principles is crucial for accurately representing forces in physics problems.
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Hi all! I have been blindly drawing normal forces till today and i stumbled on this question.

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I have drawn 3 normal forces,
- Hand
- Leg
- Center of mass

Is there a normal force at the center of mass and is it the sum of the normal force at the hand and the leg?

Thank you!
 

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Hello Ken, welcome to PF :smile: !

There is no normal force at the center of mass.
In fact the mg at the center of mass isn't there either: the force of gravity is spread out over the whole of his body. But for convenience we add up all these small contributions to one force, that then equivalently acts at the center of mass (basically that's a definition that locates the center of mass)

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Hi BvU!

Thank you for the prompt and intuitive response! But how would I indicate the weight of the man then?
 
You are doing just fine indicating the weight this way. And your total FN is also correctly located (*) (and the arrow should be just as long as the mg arrow: if the guy is in a stable position, the sum of FN plus mg has to be zero). But the total FN is not a new force acting on the man; instead it is the sum of the two others at hands and feet.

(*) Correctly located, because not only the sum of the forces has to be zero (that would still allow FN at the toes to be the whole of mg) but also the sum of the torques (the leverages). Which means that the line of action of the sum of the two FN coincides with the line of action of mg (c.q. the sum of all gravity force onall parts of the guys body)
 
A normal force is a contact force. If there is no contact, there is no normal force.
 
Thanks guys! And since normal force is an opposing force, would the normal forces in the picture be drawn correctly? I drew it in red.

The question is *Draw the normal forces that the legs of the skateboarder and the metal rail exert on the skateboard.*

Thanks in advance! Hurrah!
 

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I don't like the question (don't know why not - intuition (*)?) but yes, that's what was asked.

(*) skater exercises a force on the board, and I suppose you can consider that a normal force.
 
Thank you for the reply BvU.

I am still unable to get hold of why the normal forces are pointing downwards for the legs instead of upwards as the force 'weight' would be pulled by gravity hence facing downwards.
 
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