Why Didn't They Use the H-H Equation in the End?

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The discussion centers on the choice between using the Henderson-Hasselbalch (H-H) equation and the Ka equation for calculating pH in a chemistry problem. Both equations utilize the same inputs but may yield different results if not applied correctly. The recommendation is to use the Ka equation for clarity and understanding, especially for more complex problems. Some participants express frustration over discrepancies in answers when using the H-H equation, suggesting potential errors in application. Ultimately, the H-H equation is viewed as a variant of the Ka equation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying concepts.
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Here's a solved chemistry problem:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100731143735AAjKe10

Why did the answerer not use the H-H equation at the very end?
Please Help.


The H-H equation and the Ka= (H)(A)/(HA) equation (what was used in the problem) both use the same inputs and both are used to find pH. How do I pick one over the other?



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Hidemons said:
Here's a solved chemistry problem:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100731143735AAjKe10

Why did the answerer not use the H-H equation at the very end?
Please Help.The H-H equation and the Ka= (H)(A)/(HA) equation (what was used in the problem) both use the same inputs and both are used to find pH. How do I pick one over the other?
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First he found [H+] then he took logs and found pH.

Ka= (H)(A)/(HA) is equivalent practically to the HH equation.

How to pick one over the other? Use Ka= (H)(A)/(HA) because, at the stage you're at you are going to understand clearly what you're doing better than if you just apply a (forgettable) formula; this will be needed for more difficult problems you might get next.
 
epenguin said:
Ka= (H)(A)/(HA) is equivalent practically to the HH equation.

Practically or completely? I worked out the linked problem using H-H and it gives you a different answer. very frustrating
 
Practically - you have to switch things about maybe.

the HH eq. is usually given in a form like

well see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henderson–Hasselbalch_equation

I don't know what you've done but someone like you :-p easily gets pH and pK on the wrong side and mixes + and - log and (equivalently) gets the fraction upside down etc. That's why I recommend not using it, but sticking with something you understand easier.
 
Hidemons said:
Practically or completely? I worked out the linked problem using H-H and it gives you a different answer. very frustrating

Show what you did, answers should be identical. If they are different you are probably doing something wrong.

Henderson-Hasselbalch equation is just another form of Ka (see derivation on the page).
 
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