Why do capacitors with different capacitance values have different uses?

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The discussion revolves around the reasons why capacitors with different capacitance values are used for various applications. It explores concepts related to charge storage, discharge rates, and the implications of maximum voltage in circuits, particularly in RC and RLC configurations.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the choice of capacitor capacitance relates to the amount of charge it can store and the discharge rate in circuits.
  • One participant questions whether a capacitor at its maximum voltage in an RC circuit would allow current to flow, raising concerns about the implications of maximum voltage and charge status.
  • Another participant clarifies that the maximum voltage a capacitor can withstand is determined by the dielectric properties and distance between plates, emphasizing that exceeding this can lead to failure.
  • It is noted that the capacitance in a circuit may be more about the desired time constant for discharge or oscillation rather than just charge storage capacity.
  • A suggestion is made to read about time constants and cut-off frequencies for further understanding.
  • Responses indicate that a capacitor's maximum voltage does not imply it is fully charged, and the voltage across it will continue to rise until limited by circuit conditions or component failure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of maximum voltage and charge status in capacitors, and there is no consensus on the specific conditions under which current flows in an RC circuit with a charged capacitor.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of capacitor design and operational conditions, including safety factors and the risks of exceeding maximum voltage ratings.

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If you can get any difference of potential across a capacitor of any capacitance, why it's better to use capacitors with small capacitance in some cases and capacitors with a big capacitance in other cases?
 
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I would think it has to do with the amount of charge able to be stored in the capacitor and maybe the rate at which it discharges in an RC or RLC circuit.
 
timthereaper said:
I would think it has to do with the amount of charge able to be stored in the capacitor and maybe the rate at which it discharges in an RC or RLC circuit.

If there is a limited amount of charge being able to be stored within the capacitor, it means there is also a limit of the difference of potential across it.
Then I have some questions arising from this fact.
In an RC series circuit, imagine there's an emf of 1000 V and the capacitor has its maximum voltage, namely 500 V. Will there be any current in the circuit?
Does the maximum voltage across the capacitor mean it's fully charged?
 
fluidistic said:
If you can get any difference of potential across a capacitor of any capacitance, why it's better to use capacitors with small capacitance in some cases and capacitors with a big capacitance in other cases?
You actually cannot. The maximum voltage depends on the distance between plates and the value of the electric breakdown field of the dielectric.
The maximum voltage is given by V_max=E_breakdown * d.
If you go over this you will get a discharge through the dielectric and ruin the capacitor (and maybe the circuit).
The voltage indicated on the capacitor may be less than this maximum value, to allow for some safety factor.

The capacitance used in a given circuit may depend less on how much charge you can store but rather on time constant desired for discharge or for oscillating processes. In filters the capacitance determines the filter parameters, and so on.
 
I'd suggest reading about time constants and/or cut-off frequencies
 
Ok thank you guys!
So I'm left with the questions of post #3.
 
fluidistic said:
In an RC series circuit, imagine there's an emf of 1000 V and the capacitor has its maximum voltage, namely 500 V. Will there be any current in the circuit?
Yes, the current will be (1000-500)/R

Does the maximum voltage across the capacitor mean it's fully charged?
The capacitor doesn't "know" anything about a maximum voltage, or being fully charged. "Maximum voltage" just means the voltage that the capacitor is designed to withstand without failing.

In your RC circuit, the voltage across the capacitor will keep rising towards 1000V until something stops it, and that "something" might be the capacitor self-destructing. Or the capacitor might work properly at twice its "maximum" voltage for longer than it takes for you to do the experiment - though it is a bad idea to design electronic circuits that deliberately take components outside of their designed operating conditions.
 
Thank you very much AlephZero. I understand much better now.
 

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