Why Do Wave Equations Use Sinθ and Cosθ Interchangeably?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of sine and cosine functions in wave equations, specifically in the context of transverse progressive waves. Participants explore whether the choice between sinθ and cosθ affects calculations related to properties such as wavelength and wave number.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that both sine and cosine functions can represent harmonic waves, with the choice between them being a matter of phase shift.
  • One participant emphasizes that the cosine function can be viewed as a sine function offset by π/2, suggesting they are fundamentally the same in terms of wave representation.
  • Another participant mentions that the general form of the wave equation includes an initial phase term, which can affect the wave's behavior at specific points.
  • There is a suggestion that the equations must be in harmonic form to retain their harmonic nature, although this is not universally agreed upon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that sine and cosine functions are interchangeable in the context of wave equations due to their phase relationship. However, there is some debate regarding the implications of this choice on the representation of waves and their properties.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the initial conditions and the definition of harmonic functions are not fully explored, leaving room for further clarification on how these factors influence the choice of sine or cosine in wave equations.

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Why do some wave equations use sinθ and others cosθ?

Does it make a difference when calculating properties such as wavelength and wave number?

For example:
y(x,t) = Asin(ωt+kx)
y(x,t) = Acos(ωt+kx)
 
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Saxby said:
Why do some wave equations use sinθ and others cosθ?

Does it make a difference when calculating properties such as wavelength and wave number?

For example:
y(x,t) = Asin(ωt+kx)
y(x,t) = Acos(ωt+kx)

These are the equations of transverse progressive waves. They have sin or cos because they are harmonic in nature. Yes of course if you do not write the equation in form of harmonic functions will they really remain harmonic ? Not at all !

I am sure your textbook might be answering questions better than me.

Edit: CompuChip beat me to it! Saxby, I did not see your question clearly. Of course, whether you use sin or cos in harmonic function is your own choice. Cos is just shifted by phase difference of pi/2. Also it does not matter because you can set your own origin anywhere in space...
 
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They are the same, the cosine is just a sine offset by \pi / 2:
\cos(x) = \sin(x + \pi / 2)

The most general form would be
y(x, t) = A \sin(\omega t + k x + \phi)
where \phi is some initial phase that determines y(0, 0).
Usually, however, problems are (or can be) setup such that y(0, 0) = 0 or y(0, 0) = A.
 
Thanks for your help guys :)
 

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