Why does an artillery shell rotate when fired?

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The discussion centers on the reasons behind the rotation of an artillery shell when fired, particularly focusing on the effects of aerodynamic forces and the shell's design. Participants explore the mechanics of rotation, the influence of drag, and the role of rifling in stabilizing the projectile's flight.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the rotation of the shell is influenced by its shape, suggesting that as the shell rises, aerodynamic forces and its longitudinal spin cause it to orient in a specific manner relative to its trajectory.
  • Another participant emphasizes that drag from aerodynamic forces is a significant factor in the shell's behavior, contrasting it with a spherical cannonball, which behaves differently.
  • It is mentioned that sometimes artillery shells can tumble through the air, and that rifling grooves are intended to prevent this tumbling by imparting spin.
  • One participant points out that most mortars, which are not rifled, still manage to hit nose first, indicating that rifling affects range but not necessarily the orientation upon impact.
  • A later reply discusses the tumbling behavior of certain bullets, specifically noting that it occurs when they strike an object first, using the 5.56 M16 round as an example.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the primary causes of rotation, with some attributing it to aerodynamic forces and others to the shell's design and rifling. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the relative importance of these factors.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about the effects of various forces and the specific conditions under which different projectiles behave. The relationship between rifling and projectile stability is also not fully explored.

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An artillery shell is fired at, let's say, a 45 degree angle. The shell will rise to a maximun height and then fall back to earth, but the shell will also rotate considerably so that it strikes the ground with the nose forward.

What accounts for the rotation? It would seem that the center of gravity would tend to orient the shell somewhat vertically even with the aerodynamic forces acting on the body. Also, the shell is spinning about its longitudinal axis and this would prevent any rotation.
 
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Frank Peters said:
An artillery shell is fired at, let's say, a 45 degree angle. The shell will rise to a maximun height and then fall back to earth, but the shell will also rotate considerably so that it strikes the ground with the nose forward.

What accounts for the rotation? It would seem that the center of gravity would tend to orient the shell somewhat vertically even with the aerodynamic forces acting on the body. Also, the shell is spinning about its longitudinal axis and this would prevent any rotation.
The rotation you're asking about (not the rotation about the longitudinal axis of the projectile) is due to the shape of the shell, being pointed on the forward end. The natural tendency of the shell would be to maintain the same angle with respect to the horizontal, but as the shell rises, its center of mass follows a roughly parabolic arc, so I would imagine that air resistance plus its longitudinal spin force the shell to be oriented tangent to the curve it's following.
One way to think about this is with the elevators on an airplane's rear wing. If both elevators are in the lowered position, the plane's nose drops. I think something like this happens as the shell starts to drop. The rear of the shell is hanging down, relative to motion through the air, which exerts an upward force on the rear of the shell, and causing the front of the shell to drop.
 
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It is drag from aerodynamic forces. A spherical cannonball will behave differently.

Somettimes bullets or artillery shells tumble through the air. Trying to prevent that is the purpose of the spin put on be rifling grooves.
 
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anorlunda said:
It is drag from aerodynamic forces. A spherical cannonball will behave differently.

Somettimes bullets or artillery shells tumble through the air. Trying to prevent that is the purpose of the spin put on be rifling grooves.
Most mortars are not rifled, but still hit nose first, the rifling makes a difference in range - at least for the US 120mm mortar. The only bullets I know that tumble are ones that strike something first (this was common with the 5.56 M16 round. If it hit a twig it would tumble.
 

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