Why does bonding occur between atoms?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reasons for atomic bonding, specifically exploring the concepts of electron repulsion and attraction, and how these lead to the formation of molecules. It touches on both covalent and ionic bonding as mechanisms for molecular formation.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why atoms can form molecules despite electron cloud repulsion, suggesting a role for positive and negative charges.
  • Another participant asserts that it is often 'cheaper together' for atoms to bond, referencing covalent and ionic bonding as examples of this phenomenon.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea of bonding being more favorable due to energy considerations, emphasizing the role of electric attraction and repulsion in chemistry.
  • One participant elaborates on the concept of minimal potential energy situations, suggesting that atoms can achieve a more stable configuration when they come close enough to share valence electrons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the mechanisms of atomic bonding, with some agreeing on the importance of energy considerations while others emphasize the role of electric forces. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts such as covalent and ionic bonding without fully resolving the implications of electron repulsion and attraction in different bonding scenarios. There are assumptions about stability and energy configurations that are not explicitly defined.

Kenneth Boon Faker
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If each electron cloud repels other electrons and other atoms, then why can two or more atoms form molecules?

Is it to do with negative and positive charges?
 
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Kenneth Boon Faker said:
If each electron cloud repels other electrons and other atoms, then why can two or more atoms form molecules?

Is it to do with negative and positive charges?
Yes. The whole of Chemistry is about electric attraction and repulsion.
Everything in life is down to Energy in the end and you can get much better answers than when you try to use Forces. Although an isolated atom is stable, in a 'minimal potential energy situation, you can bring another atom (very) close and a more stable configuration is sometimes possible (i.e. when compounds actually can be formed). The valence electrons on an atom can be nudged into a sharing situation where each electron is attracted to both nearby nuclei; it's a lower energy situation than for two isolated atoms. (Covalent Bonding)
 

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