Why does electromagnetic radiation (energy) excite electrons?

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The discussion centers around the question of why electromagnetic radiation can excite electrons to higher energy levels. Participants explore the mechanisms behind this phenomenon, including the role of frequency and the interaction of charged particles with electromagnetic fields. The scope includes theoretical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to atomic physics and energy absorption.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that electrons are charged particles that interact with the electromagnetic field, and the right frequency is necessary due to the conservation of energy.
  • Another participant explains that electromagnetic waves contain electric fields that exert forces on charges, which is why they affect electrons.
  • A comparison is made to pushing someone on a swing, emphasizing that the frequency of the electromagnetic wave must match the natural frequency of the electron's motion to effectively excite it.
  • It is noted that in conductors, many energy states are available for electrons, allowing them to be excited by a wide range of frequencies, whereas in non-conductors, only specific frequencies can excite electrons due to limited energy states.
  • One participant questions what causes an electron to release energy in the form of radiation when pushed by an electromagnetic wave, while another asserts that electrons actually absorb energy rather than release it.
  • A reference to a Wikipedia article is provided, suggesting that electrons can absorb electromagnetic energy due to available degrees of freedom corresponding to discrete energy levels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of energy absorption and release by electrons when interacting with electromagnetic radiation. There is no consensus on the mechanisms or implications of these interactions, and multiple competing explanations are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of electrons in different materials and the conditions under which they can absorb energy. The relationship between frequency and energy levels is emphasized, but the specifics of these interactions remain unresolved.

vanmaiden
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Hello everyone,

I've been told many times that when the right frequency of electromagnetic radiation hits an electron, it is excited to another energy level. My question is this, "why do electrons get excited to higher energy levels when hit by electromagnetic radiation?" Why does the cause (being hit by electromagnetic radiation) bring about the effect (raising the electron to a higher energy level)? If you could answer this for me, it would be great.

Thanks,

Vanmaiden
 
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Because the electrons are charged particles, and they interact with the electromagnetic field. As for the condition for the right frequency, it follows from the law of conservation of energy during the process.
 
Electromagnetic waves contain electric fields, and electric fields push on charges. So that's why being hit by electromagnetic waves affects electrons: the electric field pushes the charge around.

Now, why does the effect depend on the frequency of the wave? Imagine you are pushing someone in a swing, trying to get them swinging higher. You'll need to repeatedly push them at a certain frequency, so that you always push them while they're swinging forward (speeding them up) instead of pushing them while they are swinging backwards (slowing them down). An analogous thing happens in atoms: in order to get the electron vibrating in a certain way, you need to push on it with electric fields at a certain frequency, so you need to hit it with an electromagnetic wave of a certain frequency.
 
The EM wave exerts a force on the electron. In a conductor such as an antenna there are practically an unlimited amount of energy states available for many of the electrons so all frequencies will excite electrons, causing them to move. In a non-conductor only certain energy states are available, so some of the light is going to be the wrong frequency and will either be reflected or passed through instead of absorbed.
 
The_Duck said:
Now, why does the effect depend on the frequency of the wave? Imagine you are pushing someone in a swing, trying to get them swinging higher. You'll need to repeatedly push them at a certain frequency, so that you always push them while they're swinging forward (speeding them up) instead of pushing them while they are swinging backwards (slowing them down). An analogous thing happens in atoms: in order to get the electron vibrating in a certain way, you need to push on it with electric fields at a certain frequency, so you need to hit it with an electromagnetic wave of a certain frequency.

When an electromagnetic wave pushes on the electron, what causes the electron to release energy in the form of radiation?
 
vanmaiden said:
When an electromagnetic wave pushes on the electron, what causes the electron to release energy in the form of radiation?

It doesn't. The opposite happens and it absorbs energy.
 
For a different but related perspective, try reading a the first section or two here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_level

["why do electrons get excited to higher energy levels when hit by electromagnetic radiation?" /QUOTE]

[a] because they can absorb electromagnetic energy as described in prior posts,

because there are available degrees of freedom to allow them to absorb energy...these correspond to discrete energy levels...which are not available to free electrons,

[c] because
For a confined particle such as an electron in an atom, the wave function has the form of standing waves. Only stationary states with energies corresponding to integral numbers of wavelengths can exist...

from the above Wikipedia article...
 

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