Why does f(x-vt) represent a wave along +x?

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The discussion centers on understanding why the function f(x-vt) represents a transverse wave moving in the +x direction, despite initial confusion suggesting otherwise. It explains that f(x-vt) indicates the wave's behavior at position x based on its state at the origin, t seconds earlier, which clarifies the negative sign in the equation. The conversation emphasizes that this form is applicable to various wave types, not just transverse waves, as long as they propagate at speed v. Participants suggest visualizing the concept by plotting the function to see the wave's movement over time. Overall, the explanation helps clarify the relationship between the wave function and its propagation direction.
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I just can't understand how this makes sense. Why does f(x-vt) represent a transverse wave along +x? Where v is the velocity, t is time, and x is position along the x axis. It seems to be exactly the opposite to what I would think makes sense, with f(x+vt) representing a wave along +x and f(x-vt) representing a wave along -x. But this isn't the case! I've been trying to wrap my head around it, not matter how I look at it.
Can anyone explain this concept in a way that makes sense?

Thanks! :smile:
 
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Let's for simplicity set our coordinates so that x= 0 when t= 0. If the object is moving at speed v, then at any future time, t, x= vt. So x-vt= 0. That is, f(0) "moves" along the x-axis at speed v.
 
Think of the function f(x-vt) as being a pattern of some kind. The pattern will propagate in the +x direction at speed v, because at x=0 and t=0, the pattern is f(0) (think of this as the center of the feature that is propagating), but at any other time t and x=vt, the pattern will still be f(0). So the center of the feature is always found at some x=vt, so is moving at speed v in the +x direction, because that's just what x=vt means.
 
Oh! Okay, so you just have to look at the equation for the position x first as x=vt. Thanks much! :biggrin:
 
Why does f(x-vt) represent a transverse wave along +x?

Just remember that this statement does not apply to every f(x-vt) only suitable ones, although there are a great many such.
 
Studiot said:
Just remember that this statement does not apply to every f(x-vt) only suitable ones, although there are a great many such.

Which would be those restrictions? continuity?
 
The simplest example would be

f(x-vt) = k
 
binrdow said:
I just can't understand how this makes sense. Why does f(x-vt) represent a transverse wave along +x? Where v is the velocity, t is time, and x is position along the x axis. It seems to be exactly the opposite to what I would think makes sense, with f(x+vt) representing a wave along +x and f(x-vt) representing a wave along -x. But this isn't the case! I've been trying to wrap my head around it, not matter how I look at it.
Can anyone explain this concept in a way that makes sense?

Thanks! :smile:

I had this problem too and eventually came to this conclusion (a nice arm waving one).
f(x-vt) tells you what the function will be at x in terms of what it was, at the origin, t seconds ago (i.e. t is the time it took to propagate to x from the origin) - hence the negative t sign.
Confused more? - Sorry if you are but it helped me, once.
 
TheBlackNinja said:
Which would be those restrictions? continuity?
I believe the issue was the idea that the wave is "transverse", which is not a requirement of the f(x-vt) form. Anything that propagates at v has the form f(x-vt), including longitudinal and water waves.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Confused more? - Sorry if you are but it helped me, once.

Actually, this helps allot! Thanks! :)
 
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If you have mathematica or a scientific calculator, you can plot the functions f(x) = cos(x - vt), let v equal some random number, and plot it as you vary t between different graphs. You'll actually SEE the graph moving to the right as you increase t.

I think it's a fantastically convincing argument for seeing how this works.
 

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