Why Does Gas Volume Decrease with Temperature Increase in My Calculations?

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The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem concerning the behavior of gas volume in relation to temperature changes, specifically focusing on the ideal gas law and the implications of using different temperature scales.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why their calculations yield a decrease in gas volume with an increase in temperature when using Kelvin. They express confusion over the relationship between temperature and volume, particularly when applying the ideal gas law.

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Participants are exploring the ideal gas law and its variables, with some providing clarifications on the need for absolute temperature and consistent units. There is an ongoing inquiry into how to isolate variables in the equations presented.

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The original poster mentions a requirement to use Kelvin for temperature calculations, which has led to confusion regarding the expected relationship between temperature and volume. There is also a reference to the need for consistent units in calculations.

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As part of my AS Physics homework a week or so ago, I was set the question:

3. A fixed mass of gas has a volume of 144 cm3 at 15ºC. Calculate its volume at

(a) 33ºC
(b) 0ºC, and
(c) -67ºC (the pressure being constant).

Yesterday the whole class was asked to re-attempt questiosn 3 and 4 using temperatures in Kelvin instead of celsius.

When I was trying to figure out the question the first time around I tried using K but found that the answers didn't make logical sense as I thought that as temperature increases so does the volume of gas.

Originally, I used V = kT and calculated k to be 9.6. I the got the three answers to equal 317, 0 and -643 cm^3. Obviously, I now know that this is wrong.

However, whenever I try to calculate the answer using a temp. in Kelvin (by adding 273 degrees to the celsius temp), I get k to equal 0.5 and this figure makes the volume decrease as temp. increases.

Can anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Cathy
 
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Start with PV=nRT=NkT, which is the ideal gas law. Note there are three variables, P, V and T. P and T must be used in terms of their absolute values. P can be expressed as absolute, gage or differential pressure, and T can be expressed in terms of absolute scales (Kelvin or Rankine) or corresponding relative scales, Celsius and Fahrenheit.

In addition, the units must be consistent, MKS (SI) or cgs, or British.

See http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/kinetic/idegas.html for a discussion of the ideal gas law.

A reasonable discussion of temperature - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_temperature
 
Thank you for replying.

As far as PV = nRT is concerned, how do I work out the number of moles so that I only have one unknown in the equation?
 
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