Why does my friend say I am wrong?

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The discussion centers on calculating the total load on a fastener anchored by three cables in a factory setting. One participant calculates the vertical and horizontal components of the forces, arriving at a total force of 416 N. However, another participant points out a misunderstanding regarding the 300 N force, which is applied straight down and should not be counted as a northward component. This highlights the importance of accurately accounting for all force directions in vector analysis. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in understanding how different forces interact in a system.
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A special fastener is used to anchor three cables to an east-facing wall in a factory. One cable applies a load of 300N straight down. The second cable applies a load of 400N, horizontally toward the south. The third cable applies a load of 500N toward the north, but angled at 30 degrees from the horizontal , down toward the floor. What is the total load on the fastener?

my solution
the vertical component of the 500N force = 500*sin30 = 250 N down
the north component of the 500 N force = 500*cos30 north

the sum of the north-south components = 300 north + 500*cos30 north + 400 south
Net north-south component = 300 + 500*cos30 - 400 = 333 N

The 333 N force vector and the 250 N force vector are perpendicular to each other. The vector that represents the sum of these 2 vectors is the hypotenuse of the right triangle formed by the 3 vectors.
Magnitude of total force = (250^2 + 333^2)^0.5 = 416 N
 
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Hi davedave,

Your reasoning is sound.
But... what happened to the load of 300 N straight down?
You appear to have counted this force as being northward.
 
hi davedave! :smile:

the 300 N is down

how do you get a north/south component? :confused:
 
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