Why does my social life suck so much?

[Cyrus]

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Poop loops, find something better to do with your time than trying to annoy me.

 

[Economist]

So we all agree that giant bow ties are NOT a good look.

I don't know? This guy pulls it off pretty well.

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[Poop-Loops]

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Only reason #1 looks good is because he's wearing something over the striped shirt.

And a business suit? Please.

Poop loops, find something better to do with your time than trying to annoy me.

I'm sorry to burst your ego bubble, but I couldn't care less about you. I just wanted to comment on striped shirts.

 

[Cyrus]

Im glad were acting like adults here.

 

[JasonRox]

Im glad were acting like adults here.

I don't know man. Those outfits are lame.

Number 1 problem is no accessories.

If you want to find good pictures and good styles, search for european styles. North Americans are dull as ****.

 

[Moonbear]

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Poop loops, find something better to do with your time than trying to annoy me.

Now THOSE are styles I can sink my teeth into...mmm. Poop-loops, what do you have against stripes?! That's a problem too many guys have, they are afraid to add patterns to their wardrobe, and everything they own is plain, boring, solid colors.

Horizontal stripes can be dangerous if you don't have the right body type (if you're very thin, they can help you look like you have broader shoulders though). Vertical stripes are almost always good looking (with the exception Cyrus pointed out already, that if you're tall and skinny, avoid vertical stripes that will make you look more like a bean pole...subtle stripes are okay, but nothing bold if you're tall).

I think the top look would be especially good on a small Asian guy who has a problem with looking too young for his age, because the jacket will make you look bigger in the upper body, which translates to an appearance of looking older too. Just be careful that the jacket you choose is the right length for your height...you wouldn't want it too long to make your legs look super-short by having a jacket that's overly long (and a tall guy wouldn't want too short of a jacket making him look like he's standing on stilts). You could also pull off that look with a denim jacket rather than a sport coat for an even more casual look.

The style on the bottom probably wouldn't look that good on a shorter guy, but if you're an average height guy, it's a nice casual look that's comfortable without looking sloppy. That's also a great example of a properly fitting shirt. Look where the shoulder seams are on his shoulders, and how the side seams of the shirt come in close, following the contour of his body without being overly tight.

 

[Moonbear]

Number 1 problem is no accessories.

Accessories? Those are for women, not men!

 

[Cyrus]

Accessories are what finish an outfit. For example, a nice watch, a hat, sun glasses, a leather wrist band, a ring.

 

[rewebster]

I wonder what happened to proton?

hopefully he's not out there buying ALL the clothes presented

(maybe he's socializing)

 

[Moonbear]

Accessories are what finish an outfit. For example, a nice watch, a hat, sun glasses, a leather wrist band, a ring.

Hats and sunglasses are for when you're outdoors. Leather wrist band? Not even sure what that's about, and don't think I want to ask. The only rings I want to see on a guy is a wedding ring (well, I don't really want to see that either, but if they're married and want to wear the thing, it's okay...I'm used to being around men who don't even wear wedding rings because they're a safety hazard). Any other rings start making him look like a pimp. Though, a nice pair of cufflinks when dressed up is acceptable accessories. I don't like jewelry on guys. Heck, I don't like too much jewelry on women either. If I see guys wearing too much jewelry, I end up thinking they're too "soft" and don't do enough real work with their hands that they can wear jewelry.

I keep seeing people suggesting to dress like Europeans. Why? We're not in Europe. Can't they have their own styles that we don't have to copy? If you're trying to appeal to American women (or Asian women) and not European women, go with styles that are appealing where you are. Of course, if you're trying to attract European women, go for the European styles.

 

[Moonbear]

I wonder what happened to proton?

hopefully he's not out there buying ALL the clothes presented

Yeah, I think we've gotten way off topic here. Oh well, that's the fate of threads in GD.

(maybe he's socializing)

Hopefully!

 

[proton]

i was doing some socializing, but mainly studying for midterms

anyways, why do you guys keep suggesting suits as outfits for me? i can only use outfits that make me look less awkward and more normal. I've barely seen any college students wear suits

 

[Huckleberry]

i was doing some socializing, but mainly studying for midterms

anyways, why do you guys keep suggesting suits as outfits for me? i can only use outfits that make me look less awkward and more normal. I've barely seen any college students wear suits

I think the thread has turned into a bit of a fashion walk-off. I don't think it has much bearing on your situation and is mostly a debate on fashion. Don't read too much into it. The general idea is that the way you dress might be a good way to make a good first impression to others. It's something to think about, but you'll have to decide what is right for yourself.

 

[rewebster]

just wear SOME clothes when you go out

 

[Huckleberry]

just wear SOME clothes when you go out

Yes, definitely wear some clothes. You wouldn't want your quarks showing!

 

[rewebster]

Yes, definitely wear some clothes. You wouldn't want your quarks showing!

yeah--or your gluons

 

[rewebster]

i was doing some socializing, but mainly studying for midterms

anyways, why do you guys keep suggesting suits as outfits for me? i can only use outfits that make me look less awkward and more normal. I've barely seen any college students wear suits

Have you gotten anything out of all of our babbling (suggestions) yet?

 

[Poop-Loops]

Now THOSE are styles I can sink my teeth into...mmm. Poop-loops, what do you have against stripes?! That's a problem too many guys have, they are afraid to add patterns to their wardrobe, and everything they own is plain, boring, solid colors.

It's really just a straight line, but you're putting it there to make your clothes more interesting? That doesn't make sense.

 

[jim mcnamara]

Have you gotten anything out of all of our babbling (suggestions) yet?

My answer: duzzent look like it. Maybe there is a relationship between the problem he seems to have and what we see here...hmm

 

[Cyrus]

Here is a great example of a khaki suit and stripe shirt, and sunglasses.

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/img/review/011214/oceans_l.jpg


As for the wristband moonbear, think 80s rocker.

 

[cristo]

Here are more places you can look proton

http://men.style.com/slideshows/mens/standalone/details/fashion/0607/denim/00004f.jpg

I'm not too sure about this outfit. For me, there's too many clashing themes going on. I'd either ditch the shirt and wear a plain one or switch to a plain tie and matching pocket handkerchief. I don't like patterned shirts with plain collars either, but I know that's just me! This is, however, a good example of how a belt really adds to an outfit.

 

[Moonbear]

Here is a great example of a khaki suit and stripe shirt, and sunglasses.

Yes, I like the khaki suit and stripe shirt there. But then, that's a guy who could wear anything and still look HOT! :!)

As for the wristband moonbear, think 80s rocker.

I left the 80s back in high school, and don't really need to return to them. Next you'll be recommending fluorescent sweatshirts with the neck ripped out.

I don't like patterned shirts with plain collars either, but I know that's just me!

I don't care for those either, but I thought I was the only one...so many people do seem to like them.

 

[Cyrus]

I'm not too sure about this outfit. For me, there's too many clashing themes going on. I'd either ditch the shirt and wear a plain one or switch to a plain tie and matching pocket handkerchief. I don't like patterned shirts with plain collars either, but I know that's just me! This is, however, a good example of how a belt really adds to an outfit.

Yeah, its not perfect. But its leaps and bounds better than a hoddie, but still casual with the jeans.

 

[rewebster]

My answer: duzzent look like it. Maybe there is a relationship between the problem he seems to have and what we see here...hmm

I think photon says he's busy with his work------

i was doing some socializing, but mainly studying for midterms

anyways, why do you guys keep suggesting suits as outfits for me? i can only use outfits that make me look less awkward and more normal. i've barely seen any college students wear suits

and from the first few posts, its more a few to socialize with---if he dressed up in a suit for those functions, I think they may get the wrong impression about him.

 

[chroot]

My only comment about fashion is that's just as possible to look overdressed as it is to look underdressed. Sometimes, honestly, jeans and a hoodie is the most appropriate look you can have. You'd look a little weird if you drag-ass into your 8 am calculus class wearing a crisply starched dress shirt and Princeton-style sport coat with a little matching handkerchief in the pocket.

I'm often just as impressed by the variety in someone's wardrobe, but I'm the sort of guy who thinks it's perfectly normal to scuba dive and snow ski in the same weekend.

- Warren

 

[JasonRox]

If you're trying to appeal to American women (or Asian women) and not European women, go with styles that are appealing where you are.

All women love it. American, Canadian, European, whatever.

I have accessories, like watches, bracelets, necklaces, rings and things like that. I have several of them so I can wear accessories that match the outfit or "vibe" I want to set.

One of the things I do a lot though, as silly as it sounds, is wear a hockey hat. I'm dressed all preppy with a hockey hat basically. It's against all fashion rules, but it's my style. It makes me stand out. People notice me a lot more. They love the hockey hair, so no complaints there. I am looking for a nice hairstyle though. That's not easy.

 

[binzing]

And a business suit? Please.

What, you've never seen a striped suit?

 

[lisab]

One of the things I do a lot though, as silly as it sounds, is wear a hockey hat.

Um, wouldn't that be...a helmet? Well yeah, that does sound silly. But I'm neither hockey-nor-fashion savvy. Who am I to say...?

 

[rewebster]

Um, wouldn't that be...a helmet? Well yeah, that does sound silly. But I'm neither hockey-nor-fashion savvy. Who am I to say...?

I guess as long as its not a hockey mask:

http://www.columbiacostumes.com/Thumbnails/Thumbnail%20Masks/hockey_mask_tn.gif

 

[Moonbear]

All women love it. American, Canadian, European, whatever.

Not all. I sure don't.

One of the things I do a lot though, as silly as it sounds, is wear a hockey hat. I'm dressed all preppy with a hockey hat basically. It's against all fashion rules, but it's my style. It makes me stand out. People notice me a lot more. They love the hockey hair, so no complaints there. I am looking for a nice hairstyle though. That's not easy.

The thing about finding your own style is that once you understand the rules, you are free to break them. I think it gets back at the confidence part. If you're just schlepping around wearing anything because you couldn't bother to care, people can tell. But, if you're proudly showing off your own odd style, then it's saying something about who you are and you exude confidence, which is the most attractive part of it.

 

[rewebster]

My only comment about fashion is that's just as possible to look overdressed as it is to look underdressed. Sometimes, honestly, jeans and a hoodie is the most appropriate look you can have. You'd look a little weird if you drag-ass into your 8 am calculus class wearing a crisply starched dress shirt and Princeton-style sport coat with a little matching handkerchief in the pocket.

I'm often just as impressed by the variety in someone's wardrobe, but I'm the sort of guy who thinks it's perfectly normal to scuba dive and snow ski in the same weekend.

- Warren

actually I don't know any men involved with 'fashion' or have fashion talks--except for the ones on TV

 

[chroot]

actually I don't know any men involved with 'fashion' or have fashion talks--except for the ones on TV

Seriously, I could never walk into a classroom at 8 am wearing the crap that Cyrus suggests with a straight face. At best, people will think you're trying way too hard.

- Warren

 

[Astronuc]

Seriously, I could never walk into a classroom at 8 am wearing the crap that Cyrus suggests with a straight face. At best, people will think you're trying way too hard.

Agreed!

 

[Moonbear]

Seriously, I could never walk into a classroom at 8 am wearing the crap that Cyrus suggests with a straight face. At best, people will think you're trying way too hard.

Or that you just got a new girlfriend.

Pinstripe suits are of course way over the top for classes. I'm probably not a good person to ask anymore, because med students DO show up with dress shirts and ties for 8 AM classes...if they have the 8 AM class the same day they have to be in the clinic, they are expected to dress professionally for that, and they are never allowed to dress like a complete slob. We haven't had any problems with it this year, but last year, we had a student who wore old sweatpants with holes in them for the gross anatomy lab and we had to embarrass him by pulling them up for him during class when they started slipping off exposing his boxers while his hands were too dirty to do it for himself. We had to remind him of the professionalism rules for med students, which are greatly relaxed from what they were not very long ago (it used to be that they were expected to show up in professional attire every day, including ties for the men).

 

[Cyrus]

Seriously, I could never walk into a classroom at 8 am wearing the crap that Cyrus suggests with a straight face. At best, people will think you're trying way too hard.

- Warren

Well, for one its not crap. Its expensive clothes. Two, I said I always dress nice, not just to go to class, because as an adult, I know how to dress myself. Three, I could care less what a bunch of slobs in an 8 am class think about me. I have style and confidence, and the times I see someone wearing something nice I tell them to keep it up because they look good.

If you had confidence, you would be able to wear what I posted with a straight face.

 

[dontdisturbmycircles]

Ahhhh, sweat pants and a hoodie. The comfort of going to morning lecture looking like you rolled out of bed is worth the lack of style. I don't have a problem socializing with class mates at all, plus - who cares, isn't one of the perks of being in a science program the fact that almost everyone looks just as bad as you no matter what you wear?

I don't neglect the fact that looking professional is very important, but dressing up for lectures is a bit much imo (not saying it's a bad idea though).

 

[Cyrus]

I hope you don't get into the habbit of rolling into your 8 am workplace like a slob for your boss. You're a scientist. You're going to work in a professional atmosphere. Get used to it.

Even the days I had an 8 am class (I didnt live on campus, I woke up at 6:45 to be there at 8), I still dressed myself as an adult. Stop with the excuses.

 

[Astronuc]

Well, for one its not crap. Its expensive clothes. Two, I said I always dress nice, not just to go to class, because as an adult, I know how to dress myself. Three, I could care less what a bunch of slobs in an 8 am class think about me. I have style and confidence, and the times I see someone wearing something nice I tell them to keep it up because they look good.

If you had confidence, you would be able to wear what I posted with a straight face.

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[dontdisturbmycircles]

I hope you don't get into the habbit of rolling into your 8 am workplace like a slob for your boss.

Well obviously not, dressing smart at work is important; I agree. If I go out I make an effort to dress nice, but not for lectures man.

 

[Cyrus]

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[Evo]

Well, for one its not crap. Its expensive clothes. Two, I said I always dress nice, not just to go to class, because as an adult, I know how to dress myself. Three, I could care less what a bunch of slobs in an 8 am class think about me. I have style and confidence, and the times I see someone wearing something nice I tell them to keep it up because they look good.

If you had confidence, you would be able to wear what I posted with a straight face.

Like Moonbear, I do find men that dress nice, even if it is casual, to be more interesting.

 

[Moonbear]

Well, for one its not crap. Its expensive clothes.

Do you really equate cost with quality? I don't. Expensive crap is still crap.

Though, as for "rolling" into 8 AM classes, I don't see how pulling on a nice sweater and trousers requires any more effort than a hoodie sweatshirt and jeans. On the other hand, I wouldn't say someone has to show up to their 8 AM classes perfectly groomed every day, but more that you know how to wear what's appropriate to the occasion. If you just want to be warm and comfortable to drag yourself across campus on a cold, rainy morning and that means wearing a hoodie and jeans, fine. But, when you're awake and getting ready to meet people for lunch, or going out for the evening, or have a meeting with your professors, change into something nicer. One needn't dress like they are a runway model to just look neat and clean.

 

[Moonbear]

Well obviously not, dressing smart at work is important; I agree. If I go out I make an effort to dress nice, but not for lectures man.

Since part of the OP was about attracting women, and since one of the places to meet women in college is in your lectures, if there's an interesting woman in your 8 AM class, then you might do better at catching her attention if you dress a notch above all the other guys in jeans and hoodies. If there's nobody of interest in that class, there's no need to worry about whose eye you're catching.

 

[Poop-Loops]

I hope you don't get into the habbit of rolling into your 8 am workplace like a slob for your boss. You're a scientist. You're going to work in a professional atmosphere. Get used to it.

Thanks. I'll remember to tell my professors that. "Hey, some guy on the internet said a scientist should dress nicely for his boss. You're wearing a shirt that you just messed up with your chalky hands. Ergo, you are a bad scientist.

All the people I have worked with or for in my university (engineers and scientists) dressed normally, i.e. jeans or khakis, dress shirt or t-shirt. No fancy stuff.

I'm much more productive when I dress comfortably, not when I wear stuff that costs more than my weekly salary that I'm trying not to mess up.

"God dammit, Poop Loops! You haven't gotten anything done today!"

"Yeah, but hot damn, I look good!"

Even the days I had an 8 am class (I didnt live on campus, I woke up at 6:45 to be there at 8), I still dressed myself as an adult. Stop with the excuses.

Oh cry me a river. I wake up at 6am to get to an 8:30am class because the bus ride takes so long in the mornings.

When I went to community college, I had a 6:45am class. Yes, 6:45am. The drive was only 15 minutes, but I still had to get up early enough to eat something and get there.

 

[Astronuc]

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[hypatia]

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[GeorginaS]

8 a.m. classes.

I'd point out that an awful lot of people begin work every day at 8 a.m. So what the big deal is about arriving somewhere at that time, and not being able to look presentable when you do so, is failing my ability to understand.

 

[Poop-Loops]

The problem is what you define as being "presentable".

 

[Evo]

The problem is what you define as being "presentable".

Clothes that are clean, that fit, that have no holes or tears. That you wouldn't sleep in or work out in.

 

[Moonbear]

The problem is what you define as being "presentable".

There are a heck of a lot of people who need to show up to work at 7:30 AM wearing a suit. Surely the rest of the world can manage to get to work or class by 8 AM in something that approximates business casual, which is certainly presentable.