Why Does the Atwood Machine Equation Deviate from Expected Results?

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The discussion centers on the Atwood machine experiment, specifically the equation (m1-m2)g=(m1+m2+I/R^2)a, which is used to analyze the relationship between mass difference and acceleration. Participants express confusion about the expected zero y-intercept and how deviations might arise, particularly due to factors like friction and the moment of inertia of the pulley. One participant clarifies that the radius R is related to the pulley, and the correct formula includes the moment of inertia I. The conversation highlights the importance of considering friction and other variables that can affect the results. Understanding these factors is crucial for accurately interpreting the experiment's data and addressing the deviations observed.
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Homework Statement


I'm currently doing a lab that focuses on a pulley and have got stuck on on part.

The goal here is to use the data from the Atwood’s pulley experiment to test the validity of (m1-m2)g=(m1+m2+1/R^2)a. In this equation, take the quantity (m1−m2)g as the y variable and the acceleration a as the x variable. This makes the equation linear. What does the slope and the y-intercept correspond to in this equation?

Regarding the y-intercept, it is expected to be zero according the equation. However, you will probably get a non-zero value for the y-intercept! What could be the reasons behind this deviation? Did we miss something while deriving the equation? Include a clear argument regarding this issue in your lab report.

Homework Equations


(m1-m2)g=(m1+m2+1/R^2)a
y=mx+b


The Attempt at a Solution


I honestly don't see what they are really asking in this situation. By looking at the equation as though it fits y=mx+b, the slope would be (m1+m2+1/R^2) however I am unsure as to what that is supposed to imply.
 
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What is R?

ehild
 
R is the radius (2.25 cm).
 
Your equation (m1-m2)g=(m1+m2+1/R^2)a is wrong. You can not add cm-2 to kg. How did you get that equation?


ehild
 
ahhh sorry I misread. R is radians but I don't have radians given.
 
R is not radians, either. It is the radius of the pulley, but the correct formula is

(m1-m2)g=(m1+m2+I/R^2)a,

where I is the moment of inertia of the pulley.

This formula does not take friction into account. Because of friction, the system does not start to move when (m1-m2)g is less than the force of friction. ehild
 
Oh thank you! That makes much more sense. I'm still really confused about how it relates to the slope and y-intercept though.
 
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