I Why is stress considered a tensor?

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Stress is considered a tensor because it represents a linear transformation that maps vectors, specifically the surface normal direction, to another vector, which is the force acting on the surface element. This relationship aligns with the defining properties of a rank two tensor, as it involves a linear mapping from vectors to vectors. The discussion highlights a desire for a more abstract understanding of stress as a tensor, moving away from geometric demonstrations commonly found in textbooks. The conversation acknowledges that traditional proofs may not resonate intuitively, emphasizing the clarity gained through a conceptual grasp of tensors. Ultimately, understanding stress as a tensor simplifies the concept significantly.
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Before I go any further, I do understand the ways that mechanical engineering textbooks explain why stress is a tensor.

But all of those explanations seem infused with geometry (which I do NOT mean in a negative way at all); and are demonsrtrations.

I am searching for a more concise/abstract reason why stress is a tensor.

However, my education in math had been deficient. So am teaching myself new things.
And now that I understand a bit more about what a tensor is, after going through many of these wonderful videos:

(and many others)

... I am hoping someone can explain to me, concisely, without drawing tetrahera or any of those ways, why is stress a tensor.

In other words, beginning with a understanding of what a tensor is, why is stress one of these things?
And by that: do not DEMONSTRATE it is by doing a transformatoin... EXPLAIN why is IS a tensor.
 
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(Linear) Stress is a concept that is a linear transformation from vectors (the surface normal direction) to another vector (the force on the surface element). This is an identifying property of a rank two tensor.
 
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Orodruin said:
(Linear) Stress is a concept that is a linear transformation from vectors (the surface normal direction) to another vector (the force on the surface element). This is an identifying property of a rank two tensor.

I "feel" that this is along the lines of what I am looking for, but I lack your confidence. You say it so easily. Could you elaborate?
 
Orodruin said:
(Linear) Stress is a concept that is a linear transformation from vectors (the surface normal direction) to another vector (the force on the surface element). This is an identifying property of a rank two tensor.
I mean: "demonstrate"
 
observer1 said:
I "feel" that this is along the lines of what I am looking for, but I lack your confidence. You say it so easily. Could you elaborate?
A rank two tensor may be seen as a linear map from vectors to vectors. The quotient law for tensors also tells us that any such mapping must be a tensor. Since stress relates surface elements (a vector) to the force across the surface (also a vector), stress must be a tensor.
 
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Orodruin said:
A rank two tensor may be seen as a linear mapping between from vectors to vectors. The quotient law for tensors also tells us that any such mapping must be a tensor. Since stress relates surface elements (a vector) to the force across the surface (also a vector), stress must be a tensor.
wow this makes a lot of sense...

May I finally ask: Did you understand what I meant when I said that the traditional "proofs" were, more or less, "demonstrations using the geometry of tetrahedra", and were... loss of a word here to capture my feelings... like cheating? In other words, I feel that only NOW that I have a stronger idea of a tensor from listening to those videos, do I feel I understand what stress is a tensor and it is reallyu simple.
 
Well, I would say that the typical way of introducing tensors in physics and engineering is perhaps not the most intuitive one.
 
Orodruin said:
Well, I would say that the typical way of introducing tensors in physics and engineering is perhaps not the most intuitive one.
Thank you
 
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