Why Is the Maximum Moment Under the 1.5k Load in Beam Analysis?

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The discussion centers on determining why the maximum moment in beam analysis occurs under the 1.5k load. It is clarified that only the 2k and 1.5k forces are considered when analyzing the left section of the beam, as the 4.5k resultant load should not be double-counted. An imaginary cut should be made just left of the 1.5k load to find the absolute maximum moment, as this location is critical for accurate calculations. The maximum moment is influenced by concentrated loads near the resultant location, and both the 1.5k and 2k loads must be checked to identify which one controls the maximum moment. Ultimately, the analysis confirms that the maximum moment occurs at the 1.5k load due to its proximity to the resultant forces.
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For the maximum moment occur under the 1.5k load , why when we consider the left part of the beam, we just need to consider the forces 2k and 1.5k only ?

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How about FR = 4.5k and also the 1k ?
Cant i just consider all of them ? That's means i make an iamginary cut after the 1k load ...
 

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fonseh said:

Homework Statement


For the maximum moment occur under the 1.5k load , why when we consider the left part of the beam, we just need to consider the forces 2k and 1.5k only ?
if you look carefully, those are not the forces used when making an imaginary cut
of the left section at a plane just left of the 1.5k load, which is the assumed location of the absolute maximum moment.

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3. The attempt at a
How about FR = 4.5k and also the 1k ?
the 4.5k load is the resultant sum of the applied loads, so you must not double count these loads.
Cant i just consider all of them ? That's means i make an iamginary cut aftr the 1k load ...
but a cut after the 1k load is not the point of absolute maximum moment.

The best way in my opinion to determine the magnitude and location of the absolute maximum moment and shear is to draw a shear and moment diagram.
 
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PhanthomJay said:
if you look carefully, those are not the forces used when making an imaginary cut
of the left section at a plane just left of the 1.5k load, which is the assumed location of the absolute maximum moment.
do you mean we just need to make an imaginary cut up to 1.5 k because the author assume the max moment will occur under the 1.5k load ?
 
fonseh said:
do you mean we just need to make an imaginary cut up to 1.5 k because the author assume the max moment will occur under the 1.5k load ?
yes
 
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PhanthomJay said:
but a cut after the 1k load is not the point of absolute maximum moment.

The best way in my opinion to determine the magnitude and location of the absolute maximum moment and shear is to draw a shear and moment diagram.
Actually how did the author know that the absolute max moment occur under the 1.5k load ? why not the 1k load or 2k load ? Why did the author didnt show the calculation for the 1k load ?
 
fonseh said:
Actually how did the author know that the absolute max moment occur under the 1.5k load ? why not the 1k load or 2k load ? Why did the author didnt show the calculation for the 1k load ?
Author did not know. The point of max moment occurs under one of the concentrated loads near the resultant location. The author had to check both the 1.5 and 2k load locations to find out which controlled for max moment. The moment at the 1k load point did not have to be checked because it was not near the resultant.
 
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