Why is the natural frequency of a cantilever beam higher than a spiral spring?

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The discussion centers on the comparison of natural frequencies between a cantilever beam and a spiral spring. The natural frequency of the spiral spring is calculated using its spring constant, while the cantilever beam's frequency is derived from its dimensions and material properties. The calculated frequency for the cantilever beam is significantly higher than that of the spiral spring, prompting questions about the equations used. It is noted that the standard formula for helical spring stiffness includes the number of coils, which may not have been accounted for in the initial calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of using appropriate formulas for accurate frequency comparisons.
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Natural frequency of spring is fn = 1/(2*pi) * sqrt(k/m), where k = spring constant and m is the mass.

Ok, so I have a spiral spring which means that spring is coiled couple of times. Its spring constant is (according to Hartog's Mech. Vibrations), k = E*I/l, E=Elastic Modulus, I = Inertia of cross section and l = length. All good at this point.

Now I straighten the coil so I get an cantilevered beam. Its natural frequency is (according Hartog):
f = 1/(2*pi) * sqrt((3*E*I)/(l^3*m))

So assume we have a beam with 1 mm width and 10 mm height. Let's plug couple of values:
E=22*10^9 Pa, I = b^3*h*1/12, b=1*10^-3 m, h= 10*10^-3 m, l = 40*10^-3 m
m = 0.01 kg (just some value)
f (spiral spring) = 1 Hz
f (cantilevered beam) = 46.6 Hz (??)

Why is the natural frequency of the cantilever beam so much higher than the spiral spring? Am I using wrong equations?
 
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For a standard helical spring, Shigley states the stiffness is:
k = \frac{d^4 G}{8D^3 N}
Where d is the wire diameter, G is the shear modulus, D is the spring diameter, and N is the number of coils. Your formula doesn't take into consideration the number of coils. May I ask where you got it from.
 
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