Why Is the Power Series Automatically Centered at x=2?

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The discussion revolves around understanding why a power series is centered at a specific point, in this case, x=2. Participants are examining the implications of taking derivatives of power series and how that affects their center of expansion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify whether the power series is indeed centered at x=2 and how that relates to the process of taking derivatives. There is confusion about the requirement for the first four terms and whether they should be nonzero.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the nature of power series and their derivatives, suggesting that the derivative of a power series retains the same center of expansion. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the problem statement and the specific requirements for the terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and implications of power series, particularly in relation to the problem's instructions about evaluating terms at x=2. There is a noted ambiguity regarding whether the first four terms should be nonzero.

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Since it says the first four terms, not nonzero, the first four terms would be 0-(1/3-0)+2/9(x-2)-1/9(x-2)^2
I'm confused when it says I need to find these for x=2... Do I just plug in x=2 now and those four terms are them? Those won't be terms they'll be numbers. I'm assuming that the series is already centered at x=2 as that's why is says (x-2)^n so if that's the case, finding f'(2) would be to use the equation for geometric series so A/(1-R) but the first term is 0. Did they mean to say the first four nonzero terms? If someone can confirm this that'd be great.
 
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They want you do write out the derivative ##f'(x)## in the same way as the series you got in the problem, the first four terms and then the general term. After that you should plug in x=2.
 
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alivedude said:
They want you do write out the derivative ##f'(x)## in the same way as the series you got in the problem, the first four terms and then the general term. After that you should plug in x=2.
First four nonzero terms?
 
nfcfox said:
First four nonzero terms?

That is what I would do.
 
alivedude said:
That is what I would do.
So is the power series already centered about x=2 when I take the derivative??
 
nfcfox said:
So is the power series already centered about x=2 when I take the derivative??

Well, ##f(x)## is defined by the power series, which is expanded around ##x=2##. So taking the derivative of the power series would be to take the derivate of ##f(x)## and its derivative would indeed be a new power series that is indeed expanded around ##x=2## and have the same radius of convergence as ##f(x)## itself.

EDIT: If you look at what you write in your attempted solution I think you can see that the derivative takes to form of a power series.
 
alivedude said:
Well, ##f(x)## is defined by the power series, which is expanded around ##x=2##. So taking the derivative of the power series would be to take the derivate of ##f(x)## and its derivative would indeed be a new power series that is indeed expanded around ##x=2## and have the same radius of convergence as ##f(x)## itself.

EDIT: If you look at what you write in your attempted solution I think you can see that the derivative takes to form of a power series.
Right but I guess my question is why is it automatically centered around x=2.
 
nfcfox said:
Right but I guess my question is why is it automatically centered around x=2.

Because it follows from the definition of a power series, i'll show you a general case with a power series expanded around some point ##x=c## and its derivate

##
f(x)= \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(x-c)^n
##

let us now take the derivate of this, its a sum so the derivate of the whole thing is just the sum of the derivates of each term. We have that

##
f'(x) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} na_n(x-c)^{n-1}
##

We can now see that ##f(x)## and ##f'(x)## is indeed power series and they are both expanded around ##x=c##. I don't think that it could get any clearer than this.
 

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