Why Is the Tension in the Rope Not Matching the Book's Calculation?

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The discussion centers on calculating the tension in a rope lifting a 12kg block with a downward acceleration of 5 m/s². The user's calculation of tension (T = mg + ma = 180N) conflicts with the book's solution (T + ma = mg => 60N). The confusion arises from the interpretation of forces, particularly the direction of acceleration and how it affects the tension. Clarification is provided that the correct approach involves considering both the weight and tension forces, emphasizing the need to account for the signs of these forces in the equations. Ultimately, understanding the net force and its direction is crucial for resolving the tension calculation accurately.
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Homework Statement




I have a 12kg block that is raised by a rope. If the velocity of the mass is decreasing at a rate of 5 m/s^2, what is tension in the rope?

Homework Equations



T=mg
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



My solution: T = mg+ ma = 180N

Book solution: T+ma = mg => 60N

I am confused as why you are subtracting here. I see that acceleration is in the downward direction (as stated by the question stem), but the object is still been raised. So shouldn't it be T = mg+ ma? Because to me, T+ma =mg looks like that acceleration of the mass is the upward direction (if that were the case the object would be increasing it speed not decreasing),
 
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Hi Gear2d,

Gear2d said:

Homework Statement




I have a 12kg block that is raised by a rope. If the velocity of the mass is decreasing at a rate of 5 m/s^2, what is tension in the rope?

Homework Equations



T=mg

This equation is not true.

F=ma

I think you might need to be a bit more careful with this equation. This equation should be either:

<br /> \sum \vec F = m \vec a \mbox{ or } \vec F_{\rm net} = m\vec a<br />

and when you actually use it here, for example in the y direction, you get:

<br /> \begin{align}<br /> \sum F_y = m a_y\nonumber\\<br /> F_{1y}+F_{2y} = m a_y\nonumber<br /> \end{align}<br />

since there are two forces. So what are the y-components, including sign, of the tension and weight forces? And what is the y-component of the acceleration? Those, with the correct sign, are what go into the force equation.

The Attempt at a Solution



My solution: T = mg+ ma = 180N

Book solution: T+ma = mg => 60N

I am confused as why you are subtracting here. I see that acceleration is in the downward direction (as stated by the question stem), but the object is still been raised. So shouldn't it be T = mg+ ma? Because to me, T+ma =mg looks like that acceleration of the mass is the upward direction (if that were the case the object would be increasing it speed not decreasing),
 
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