Why must we use integral to find the resultant force?

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Integral calculus is essential for calculating the resultant hydrostatic force on a gate because it accounts for varying pressure across the surface. While a gate and a slanted plane may appear similar from a front view, their orientations affect the pressure distribution. The transition from a double integral to a single integral occurs because the width remains constant, simplifying the calculations. Adjustments for the angle of the gate are necessary to express the force in terms of width and depth. Understanding these concepts clarifies the necessity of using integrals in hydrostatic force problems.
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Homework Statement


Hydrostatic force on a plane surface ex:
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Hydrostatic force on a gate:
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why can't we just use the formula in the red box above for problem 3.57?
instead I have to use integral
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I am confused, how does this gate different from a slanted plane. if I look at the gate from front view, i feel like they are just the same thing. How does
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a double integral with respect to area (dhdb) became a single integral with respect to dh?
 

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oh! I can use it but because its the top view, we have to use 5 meter for h_c, which is the depth that affects the pressure.
 
ok, I have one question left, how does
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EastWindBreaks said:
double integral with respect to area (dhdb) became a single integral with respect to dh
Because the width (the b variable in dbdh) is constant.
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how does this gate different from a slanted plane.
It doesn't really. Just bear in mind that the gates are vertical, so in the equation in the red box you would put θ=π/2. On the other hand, the area is not WD. To express the answer in terms of W and D you need to make reference to the 15° angle.
With those adjustments, I think you will find the two expressions are the same.
 
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haruspex said:
Because the width (the b variable in dbdh) is constant.

It doesn't really. Just bear in mind that the gates are vertical, so in the equation in the red box you would put θ=π/2. On the other hand, the area is not WD. To express the answer in terms of W and D you need to make reference to the 15° angle.
With those adjustments, I think you will find the two expressions are the same.
oh yeah, I got it now, thank you!
 
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