Why Photon & Gluon are Exceptions from Higgs Field

In summary, the photon and the gluon in the Standard Model do not interact with the Higgs field and are hence massless and travel at the speed of light.
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The photon and the gluon in the Standard Model do not interact with the Higgs field and are hence massless and travel at the speed of light.
Is there a simple explanation why these two elementary particles are the exceptions?
 
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The A-level answer:
That answer is that you have four degrees of freedom when you add a complex Higgs doublet to the theory, one of which becomes the Higgs boson, two become the longitudinal components of the W's and you are left with linear combinations of the B and w0, and only one degree of freedom left. So one combination is always massless, and we call that one the photon.

[Note that this posting has been edited by a mentor to keep some continuity in the thread after the original question was edited by the author.]
 
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Stevexyz said:
The photon and the gluon in the Standard Model do not interact with the Higgs field and are hence massless and travel at the speed of light.
Is there a simple explanation why these two elementary particles are the exceptions?
Unfortunately the only simple explanation is “Because them’s the rules”. As V50’s answer above shows, there is no way to discuss particle physics in any depth without a serious investment in the underlying mathematical framework.
 
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This thread is kind of a mess. Originally it was A-level, then the OP deleted the question, and the mentors made a valiant attempt to try and stitch things back together.

Nugatory is right, there's no way to discuss the details of particle physics without the requisite background. I might answer the question from the other direction: because we know the photon is massless, the only theories worth considering were ones that kept the photon massless.
 
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This thread is kind of a mess. Originally it was A-level, then the OP deleted the question, and the mentors made a valiant attempt to try and stitch things back together.

Nugatory is right, there's no way to discuss the details of particle physics without the requisite background. I might answer the question from the other direction: because we know the photon is massless, the only theories worth considering were ones that kept the photon massless.
Sorry I messed up the thread.
I hope others can make further suggestions.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The A-level answer:
That answer is that you have four degrees of freedom when you add a complex Higgs doublet to the theory, one of which becomes the Higgs boson, two become the longitudinal components of the W's and you are left with linear combinations of the B and w0, and only one degree of freedom left. So one combination is always massless, and we call that one the photon.

[Note that this posting has been edited by a mentor to keep some continuity in the thread after the original question was edited by the author.]
Thanks for your explanation.
I suppose the answer to my question is NO - there isn't a simple explanation why these two elementary particles are the exceptions.
 
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Although there is no simple non-mathematical explanation, would it be correct to say the photon is an excitation in the photon field and unlike other elementary particles doesn't couple (or interact) with the Higgs field. The amount the other particles couple with the Higgs field give rise to their different masses? Thanks
 
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The development of the Standard Model is a paradigmatic example for how models and theories are built in a close "interaction" between empirical findings/accurate measurements and theoretical insights. The Standard Model looks the way it looks, because of the empirical findings and the mathematical necessities of a consistent relativistic quantum field theory involving vector bosons.

Historically it all started of course with Maxwell's electrodynamics. The electromagnetic field is nothing else than a massless vector field, and the famous work by Wigner on the unitary (ray) representations of the proper orthochronous Poincare group tells us that a massless vector field necessarily must be described as a gauge field, if you don't want particles with very strange continuous intrinsic degrees of freedom.

Another important historical landmark is Pauli's conjecture of the existence of a neutrino to "save" energy-momentum conservation in ##\beta## decay and Fermi's quantum field theory of the weak interaction.

In 1948 the work of Feynman, Schwinger, and Tomonaga on QED lead to renormalization theory, overcoming the problem of divergent contributions in the perturbative calculation of the S-matrix, leading to a successful description of the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron and the Lamb shift of the hydron energies.

Then in 1956 Yang and Mills came to the great idea to generalize the concept Abelian gauge invariance to non-Abelian gauge theory. This was a purely (and beautiful) mathemtical insight at the time without direct application.

A bit later in an attempt to bring order into the plethora of new hadrons found in acclerator experiments, Gell-Mann and Zweig found an ordering scheme based on the conjecture of quarks, which after the discovery of Bjorken scaling at SLAC and Feynman's naive parton model were considered as really existing "particles", which however were always confined in hadrons.

From the QFT point of view both the weak and the strong interaction were pretty challenging since to have short-range interactions a naive description with massless vector bosons as "charge carriers" seemed not to work, but on the other hand massive vector bosons made trouble with renormalizability, and that was also the case with Fermi's four-fermion point-couplings to describe the weak interaction.

Famously then Ward, Glashow, Salam, and Weinberg came up with a theory of the weak interaction using the discovery by Higgs, Kibble, Brout, Englert, Hagen,... (based on Anderson's discovery in QED used in the theory of superconductivity a la Bardeen, Cooper, and Shriever) that you can come up with a non-Abelian gauge theory that doesn't loose its gauge invariance when giving the vector gauge bosons mass by the Higgs mechanism, i.e., coupling the vector bosons minimally to an appropriate set of scalar fields and then trying to spontaneously break the local gauge theory. As has been understood shortly thereafter in the case of a local gauge symmetry you cannot break the symmetry spontaneously and no massless Nambu-Goldstone modes occur in the physical spetrum (as necessarily it must happen when breaking a global continuous symmetry spontaneously). In the case of the weak interaction, according to Glashow, Salam, and Weinberg you hat to combine a chiral weak-isospin symmetry based on the group SU(2) with an Abelian U(1) hypercharge symmetry and then "Higgsing" the corresponding local symmetry such that ##\mathrm{SU}(2)_{\text{wiso}} \times \mathrm{U}(1)_{\text{wY}}## get's "broken" to ##\mathrm{U}(1)_{\text{em}}##. But as one had learned then the symmetry is not spontaneously broken but rather the "would-be-Nambu-Goldstone modes" provide the additional polarization degrees of freedom to make three of the four gauge bosons massive, these being the ##\text{W}^{\pm}## and ##\text{Z}^0## bosons and keeping a fourth one massless, which then describes the photon, i.e., the electromagnetic field.

Then the question was, whether non-Abelian gauge theories are renormalizable or not and if so, whether also "Higgsed" non-Abelian gauge theories with massive gauge bosons stay renormalizable. This has been answered in the positive by Veltman and 't Hooft in 't Hooft's PHD thesis (1971).

Then in 1973 Politzer as well as Wilczek and Gross in their renormalization-group analysis of non-Abelian gauge theories discovered asymptotic freedom and opened the door to also describe the strong interaction between quarks by a non-Abelian gauge theory based on a new local gauge symmetry called "color SU(3)". The asymptotic freedom means that the "running coupling" of this Quantum chromodynamics (QCD) becomes small at high energies and strong at low energies, implying that perturbation theory cannot be used at low energies but giving hope that this might explain confinement, i.e., the fact that neither quarks nor gluons (the massless gauge bosons of the strong interaction) have ever been observed as free particles. Confinement, of course, is a non-perturbative phenomenon and till today there's no full analytical explanation for confinement from QCD, but lattice calculations with their successful prediction of the hadron spectrum (both mesons and baryons and also some more exotic bound states) indicates that QCD provides confinement and is the correct theory of the strong interactions.

Another beautiful finding is that with the full quark content (2 "flavors" in each family, each quark having 3 color degrees of freedom according to the fundamental representation of the color SU(3) gauge group) and lepton content (a charged lepton + its neutrino in each family) the explicit breaking of the chiral gauge symmetry underlying the electroweak sector of the standard model through anomalies doesn't occur, keeping the theory consistent.

This is of course a picture far from being complete. One cannot do justice to the fascinating history of the discovery of the Standard Model including also all the important experimental work needed to formulate it in a newgroup posting. For a very good (semi-popular) account of this story, I recommend

Frank Close, The Infinity Puzzle, Basic Books, NY (2011)

It's really a page turner.

Now whenever physicists start to tell the history of a subject, it's because they have not yet found a deeper reason to argue, why a theory must look as it looks. As all successful physical theories also the Standard Model is based on an interplay of theory and experiment and the theory is formulated based on mathematical reasoning on the one hand but also and foremost on the observations it is supposed to describe. Though the symmetry principles underlying its formulation are pretty constraining on the one hand they are also flexible enough to build many theories. So these symmetry principles do not answer why Nature is observed to behave in the very way the Standard Model describes it (up to today very successfully to the dismay of all the physicists looking for physics "beyond the Standard Model" to find a possible explanations of unsolved problems like the question, whether there are more elementary particles which might be candidates for dark matter and to give hints how to find them or the famous "strong CP problem" (axions?)).

The Standard Model cannot explain why the Standard Model contains precisely the elementary particles it does, why there are 3 families (with light neutrinos) nor why the free constants of the model (19 if I remember right in the plain Standard Model und about 25 if neutrino masses and the (observed) neutrino mixing are taken into account in an extension of the Standard Model) take the values they do (and thus providing the current masses of the particles in the standard model via the Higgs mechanism with confinement however giving about 98% of the hadron masses in the light-quark sector, including the matter surrounding us, which consists of bound states the lightest u- and d-quarks as well as electrons, i.e., the particles of the 1st family).

Maybe these questions are anwered one day when a better theory is found.
 
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Related to Why Photon & Gluon are Exceptions from Higgs Field

1. Why do photons and gluons not interact with the Higgs field?

Photons and gluons are considered to be massless particles, meaning they do not have any mass. The Higgs field is responsible for giving particles their mass, so since photons and gluons do not have mass, they do not interact with the Higgs field.

2. How do photons and gluons still have energy if they do not interact with the Higgs field?

While photons and gluons do not interact with the Higgs field, they still have energy. This is because they are constantly moving and have momentum, which is a form of energy. The Higgs field is not the only source of energy for particles.

3. Are photons and gluons the only particles that do not interact with the Higgs field?

No, there are other particles that do not interact with the Higgs field. These include the W and Z bosons, which are responsible for the weak nuclear force, and the graviton, which is a theoretical particle responsible for gravity.

4. How do we know that photons and gluons do not interact with the Higgs field?

Scientists have observed the interactions between particles and the Higgs field through experiments at the Large Hadron Collider. They have found that photons and gluons do not experience any changes in their behavior or properties when passing through the Higgs field, indicating that they do not interact with it.

5. Could there be other particles that also do not interact with the Higgs field?

It is possible that there are other particles that do not interact with the Higgs field, but they have not been discovered yet. The search for new particles and their interactions with the Higgs field is an ongoing area of research in particle physics.

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