Why Use Impulse in Experiments?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of impulse in physics, particularly its utility in experiments compared to momentum. Participants explore the definitions, applications, and philosophical implications of impulse, focusing on its role as a transfer mechanism for momentum and its practical measurement in various scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that impulse is used in experiments due to the limitations of measurement instruments, implying that practical considerations influence its application over momentum.
  • Impulse is defined as the change in momentum, similar to how work is defined as a change in energy, with some arguing that it serves as a useful construct that simplifies calculations by integrating force over time.
  • One participant provides an example of a tennis ball bouncing to illustrate how calculating impulse can be easier than determining the force involved, especially when considering complex interactions.
  • Another example is given regarding rocket propellants, where impulse is noted to be a constant factor that can be manipulated by varying the time over which fuel is used, highlighting its practical applications in engineering.
  • A semantic discussion arises about the terminology used, questioning why 'impulse' is preferred over 'change in momentum' and suggesting that it may relate to the notion of agency in physics.
  • Some participants reflect on the philosophical implications of force and impulse as "causes" of momentum changes, with references to Ernst Mach's perspective on causality in nature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the utility and conceptual understanding of impulse versus momentum, with no clear consensus reached on the preference for terminology or the philosophical implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of impulse and momentum, as well as the practical challenges in measuring forces in certain scenarios. The philosophical aspects introduced may also depend on individual interpretations of causality.

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Is impulse only really used in real life because of the instruments you might have? I'm having trouble understanding why this idea is a useful physical construct. The best I found is that just like work can be thought of as a "transfer mechanism" of energy, impulse is the "transfer mechanism" of momentum (I don't recall where that quoted term is from).

I was really just wondering why in an experiment someone would choose to talk about impulse rather than momentum. I have a hunch its because of what you can measure with what you have.
 
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Impulse is the term for a change in momentum, just like work is the term for a change in energy. Impulse is not just momentum (just like work isn't just energy).

Impulse is also equal to the applied force integrated over time---i.e. the force times time (if its constant). The concept of impulse is useful in that it eliminates the need for an explicit force by itself.

Consider bouncing a tennis ball off of the ground. To calculate the force acting on the ground during the bound would be very difficult, and involve modeling the tennis ball as some sort of complex spring, and taking into account its structural properties... etc etc. The force can be approximated, however, by calculating the impulse (which is just the change in momentum---easy), and dividing by the total time of the encounter.

Another example is in propellants (e.g. rocket fuel). Often a situation will be such that the impulse delivered is roughly constant (e.g. for a certain amount of rocket fuel)---if the fuel is used over a short amount of time, it produces a large force (but the same impulse); or if its used over a long time it produces a small force (but the same impulse). Again the impulse is very useful for making calculations.
 
Zhermes has it, in my opinion, spot-on.

A semantic question remains, perhaps. Why do we talk about 'impulse' rather than 'change in momentum' if they're equal to each other? For the same reason, perhaps, that we talk about 'force' rather than 'rate of change of momentum'. 'Impulse' and 'force' are both terms we apply with an agent in mind, originally, perhaps, a human being. We distinguish what we do (initiated by an act of will?) from what happens as a result.
 
Ok, thanks for the responses. The idea of agency attached to these concepts is interesting. I've also heard it often that things like force and impulse are considered "causes" of the effects of rate of momentum change and momentum change.
 
Exactly. Consider, though, the stance of Ernst Mach: "There is no cause nor effect in nature. Nature simply is.
 

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