Why Use Nuclear Charge In Finding Energy Value of Singular Electron?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of nuclear charge in calculating the energy values of electrons in atomic shells, particularly in the context of hydrogen and multi-electron atoms. Participants explore the implications of nuclear charge on energy equations and the methods for calculating energy differences between electron shells.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the formula for energy values of electron shells and questions the necessity of introducing nuclear charge (Z) in the equation for energy per electron.
  • Another participant explains that equations not accounting for nuclear charge typically apply to hydrogen or multi-electron atoms where the nucleus and other electrons can be approximated as a net charge of +1.
  • A participant inquires about the appropriate method for calculating the net change in an electron's energy when transitioning between specific energy levels (n=4 to n=2), referencing Rydberg's Equation.
  • Another reply asserts that there is no simple formula for multi-electron atoms and emphasizes that energy levels depend on both the principal quantum number (n) and the azimuthal quantum number (l), suggesting the use of approximate formulas for single valence electron atoms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of certain equations and methods for calculating energy changes in multi-electron atoms, indicating that no consensus exists on a straightforward approach for these cases.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on approximations for multi-electron atoms and the lack of a closed-form solution for energy differences in arbitrary atoms.

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My Textbook says this is the formula to find energy values for electron shells:

$$E_{mol of electrons} = \frac{-1312kJ}{n^2}$$

where $n$ is in electron shell number

But when we divide by 1 mol to get the energy value for each electron we get

$$E_{electron} = \frac{-2.178 \cdot 10^{-18}}{n^2} J$$

but the actual equation is (as given by textbook) rather

$$E_{electron} = \frac{-2.178 \cdot 10^{-18} \cdot Z^2}{n^2} J$$

Where $Z$ is nuclear charge. Why must we introduce $Z$ and why is it not used in the first equation?
 
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Usually, if an equation for the energy an electron doesn't take into account the nuclear charge, it is because it is an equation for a hydrogen (##Z=1##) or for a multi-electron atom where only the outermost electron is taken into account, such that one can take the nucleus plus the other electrons as a single entity of net charge +1 (which is always an approximation).
 
Thanks! Second question: if i wanted to find the net change in an electron's energy for an arbitrary atom when going from say, ##n=4## to ##n=2##, would I use Rydberg's Equation? I have asked this question on another site where people have said no closed form exists, and you would have to use numerical methods, but that was for finding the electron energy values of ##n=4## and ##n=2##, not for finding the net difference.
 
It doesn't matter whether you want to difference or the absolute value. There is no simple formula for multi-electron atoms. In addition, the energy does not depend only on ##n##, but also on ##l##.

There are some approximate formulas that can be used, especially for atoms with a single valence electron (alkali atoms), using quantum defect theory.
 

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