Why we multiply charges in the coulomb's law equation

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The discussion revolves around the reasoning behind the multiplication of charges in Coulomb's law, exploring the theoretical underpinnings of this aspect of electrostatics. Participants express curiosity about the relationship between charge interactions and gravitational forces, seeking a deeper understanding of the principles involved.

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  • Participants question why charges are multiplied rather than added in Coulomb's law, with some seeking intuitive explanations. Others reference Maxwell's equations and Gauss' law as foundational to understanding Coulomb's law, while also discussing the implications of the inverse square relationship.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and attempting to clarify their understanding of the multiplication of charges. Some express uncertainty about the intuitive nature of this concept, while others suggest that the experimental basis of Coulomb's law may limit intuitive explanations.

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Participants note the historical context of Coulomb's and Newton's laws, mentioning the experimental methods used to validate these laws, and how they relate to fundamental principles like the third law of motion.

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Hi.I want to know why we multiply the separate charges in the coulomb equation.I understand that the force is proportional to the charges, but I don't understand why we multiply charges.Why just we don't add them together.Are there any theoretical explanation for this.The same goes for the Gravitational law.I need some theoretical explanation in the form of the Newton laws.
 
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hi jonah! :smile:

suppose you replaced one of the charges by ten charges equal to it …

wouldn't you expect the force to be multiplied by ten (not 5.5)? :wink:
 
Hi Tiny Tim.I'm afraid I don't understanding.If I replace one of the charges with ten more I know that the force would be 10 times bigger.But that, the formula says.But I want to have some intuitive understanding of this.
Other man told me that Coulomb law is a direct consequence of Maxwells equations particularly Gauss' law so it is an experimental fact and you cannot get intuitive understanding of it.It just the way it is.
I don't know if this is true.Thank Tiny tim
 
hi jonah! :smile:
jonah.seler said:
Other man told me that Coulomb law is a direct consequence of Maxwells equations particularly Gauss' law so it is an experimental fact and you cannot get intuitive understanding of it.It just the way it is.
I don't know if this is true.Thank Tiny tim

he's talking about the 1/r2 part of coulomb's law …

yes, that is experimental

(but the intuitive understanding is easy …

it's 1/r2 for the same reason that brightness from a point source is 1/r2

you have the same amount of power passing through a sphere at any distance! :wink:)

however, you were asking about the q1q2 part of coulomb's law …​
jonah.seler said:
Hi.I want to know why we multiply the separate charges in the coulomb equation.I understand that the force is proportional to the charges, but I don't understand why we multiply charges.Why just we don't add them together.

as you say …
If I replace one of the charges with ten more I know that the force would be 10 times bigger.But that, the formula says.But I want to have some intuitive understanding of this.

… but if you added the charges instead of multiplying them, that intuitive rule wouldn't work, would it? :wink:

you need to satisfy yourself that multiplying is the only way to achieve your intuitive rule :smile:
 
I understand the "1/r2" part of the equation.The inverse square law is easy to understand.I have problem with the q1q2 part of coulomb's law,but I guess it experimental thing.
I don't understand one thing.Charles Coulomb was probably sure of his law because Coulomb had the torsion balance.But how Newton was sure for the M1M2.Cavendish with experiment tested the law years later.
I am probably wrong but I think that q1q2 and m1m2 are somehow related to the Newton third law.So when the first charge no matter how big it is in compassion to the second, exerts a force on the second charge,the second charge exerts that same force on the first and that is why we multiply them.
 
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