Wind Toroidal Cores - Tips for 20 Gauge Magnet Wire

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jdo300
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Coil Winding
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the winding of toroidal cores using 20 gauge magnet wire. Participants explore methods for winding, including the use of machines and potential DIY solutions, while sharing insights on mechanisms and challenges encountered in the process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Jason O inquires about the winding process for toroidal cores and whether factory-made coils use jigs or are hand-wound.
  • Some participants share links to videos of winding machines but express difficulty in understanding the mechanisms shown.
  • One participant suggests that the winding mechanism may be similar to a sewing machine's lock-stitch system, prompting further exploration of this analogy.
  • Another participant describes a specific winding machine (Jovil Universal) and explains how it uses a circular shuttle ring to wind the wire onto the toroid.
  • There are discussions about the challenges of visualizing the winding mechanism and requests for sketches or close-up photos to aid understanding.
  • Participants express interest in designing their own winding machines using common parts and share their progress and setbacks in practical experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the complexity of the winding process and the potential for DIY solutions, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the specifics of the mechanisms involved. Multiple competing views and ideas remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in their understanding of the winding mechanisms and the challenges of visualizing the process, indicating that further experimentation and clarification are needed.

  • #61
Yves said:
Hi there !

Just landing here bouncing from links to links contemplating to build my own toroïd winder.
Thanks for all that valuable information.
Things start to be less obscure in my head ! !

Just in case you not already know:
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1034&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0

I've nothing to publish by now, just sucking as much information as I can ;)

Yves.

this stuff doesn't work, you know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Engineering news on Phys.org
  • #62
Jdo300 said:
Hi Danger,

WOW, those drawings look awesome! I've been following the thread and would have replied sooner but I was getting stuck on a couple of the construction details and haven't had the time to explain what I am confused about.

When you were describing the construction of the hoop, I was a little lost about the construction of the different components. There are also a couple of other details that I may need some clarification on. I have a 3D CAD modeling program, Autodesk Inventor6, which I would like to use to render your design. Doing so will help me to better understand what this is actually doing. Plus, if it works well, I could publish a set of DIY plans so that others can build this also. But as soon as I get a chance, I am going to start drawing up the hoop and other parts of the setup to get a better idea of how it works. Unfortunately, despite some of the detailed diagrams, I am still having a bit of trouble seeing how the wire gets from the hoop to the toroid without getting wrapped up on the hoop. But I definitely like the relative simplicity of this. If I can, I may even make a simple controller to run some stepper motors to turn the hoop and toroid :-). Again, thank you very much for your help and I will be keeping a close eye on this thread.

- Jason O

Did you ever get the stepper control system worked out?
 
  • #63
Hello Danger,
I really want to know how is the toroid coil winder work. I'm looking for the informantion found you may the gay who know that very well .Could you send some diagran to my email ? (147495715@qq.com).
Thanks
 
  • #64
Winding with the shuttle machine is the luxury method. There are still applications that call for hook winders. These are essentially a gas driven hook that pokes up through the work table and toroid. The worker then offers the next winding into the hook. The hook then pulls the winding through the hole in the center. Mind your fingers, the hook is indescreminate.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
17K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 40 ·
2
Replies
40
Views
5K
Replies
76
Views
10K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
23
Views
4K