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Women in TV

  1. Jan 29, 2005 #1
    I'm in India, I dont know about other places. I cant seem to find a channel broadcasting programmes and commercials without a woman. It's not that I dont want women on TV, but its the way they potray women that I dont like. Is this what Men and women who fought for equal rights for women wanted? Is this something that women made for themselves.
     
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  3. Jan 29, 2005 #2
    I think it is becuse that women make up around the same percentage of people as men and well if the tv programmes want to make money they got to have things people can identify with and women identify with women men with men just the way things are
     
  4. Jan 30, 2005 #3
    What about women in the reality shows which are all the rage around the world, the Apprentice, Survivor, America's Next Top Model, Amazing Race etc which show normal women at their most vicious, scheming and manipulative when propelled by the greed to grab a big break/$1M prize money?
     
  5. Jan 30, 2005 #4
    The American media is not just a capitalist tool, but a political tool as well where Leftist ideologies are intentionally promoted for the purpose of political indoctrination. As such, one will find heavy feminism, multiculturalism, biodiversity, sentimentalism, anti-intellectualism/anti-scientific method, homosexuality, anti-guns, anti-male, etc.

    Not that I consider equal opportunity for females as a bad thing, but media feminism goes to the point to where males are degraded and placed lower than females.
     
  6. Jan 30, 2005 #5

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    please provide evidence of this claim, or state that it is your opinion. fact is, women make up 51% of the population, and the equal rights movement has given them a power that men have had for generations. some men seem to have adjustment issues to that. instead of taking on the male vs female attitude, why can't we be more encouraging? you may even win some points with the ladies...kind of like saying, "if you can't beat 'em, why not join 'em."
     
  7. Jan 30, 2005 #6
    Consider the violence females inflict against males in Hollywood productions: women punch men, slap them, throw objects at them, kick them in the testicles. These actions are portrayed as morally okey and even comical, but were it vice versa, the male would be villified. That is, Hollywood with it's radical feminist political view portrays males as secondary citizens to females.

    Cheers!
     
  8. Jan 30, 2005 #7

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    Male-targeted TV often objectifies women, female-targeted TV often makes men out to be idiots. I guess that's fair...
     
  9. Jan 30, 2005 #8

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    No one's forcing you to watch these, and don't forget to unbias yourself from the fact that there is plenty of violence of men against men and women against women. I think your views are a little too one-sided.
     
  10. Jan 30, 2005 #9
    What can I add to this discussion ? Scientific Method is 100% right !
     
  11. Jan 30, 2005 #10
    I am not debating whether I have the option of changing the channel, I am discussing the promotion of radical feminism in Hollywood.

    Yes, there is male on male violence, female on female violence, and female on male violence, but never male on female violence promoted in Hollywood without the male being portrayed as the villain. The general theme is that it's okey for females to assault males, but not the other way around.

    I understand that as a feminist female, it's in your interest to support Hollywood, but as a male, it is not in my interest to do the same. That's what it all comes down to: self-interest - one will support what's in one's best interest.

    Cheers!
     
  12. Jan 30, 2005 #11

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    who says i am a feminist female? i think you are jumping to conclusions without evidence. and who says i support hollywood? again, a pre-disposed bias, thus any articles you post i can safely assume stem from your own personal issues.
     
  13. Jan 31, 2005 #12
    Some actresses are shown nude. How do the actresses accept that. Dont they feel bad or doing something immoral?
     
  14. Jan 31, 2005 #13

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    this is the wrong forum for moral issues, plus, it does not go hand in hand with the topic you originally posted.
     
  15. Jan 31, 2005 #14
    Not if one considers morality a social phenomenon.

    I thought it did. I thought the original post could easily be interpreted as having to do with the disgusting and immoral way that women are portrayed in so many T.V. shows and movies. Aside from what Scientific Method has said about T.V. promoting feminism (which I can't say I agree with, considering the degraded view of women that most shows portray (they're down-right pornographic sometimes, even on public access shows)), there are many other issues that can be raised with regard to the media's intentions and practices, with regard to feminism and chauvinism.


    And no cracks about my name; the "Mentats" aren't male or female in Coville's books, and not necessarily male in Herbert's world.

    I, OTOH, can't resist the crack about "Scientific Method"'s name. Seriously, though when did we start invoking you in moral issues? Besides, didn't Popper kill you already (along with "Logical Positivist")? :biggrin: (All in fun, I have nothing personally against "Scientific Method", just some problems with the scientific method).
     
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  16. Jan 31, 2005 #15

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    Hey guys, not every woman(or man) shares your ethos, mores, or predjudices. You reveal more about yourselves than about societies with some of these comments.
     
  17. Jan 31, 2005 #16

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    very well said SA :smile:
     
  18. Jan 31, 2005 #17
    There, there may I offer you some tater tot casserole? How would you like a nice foot rub? I had a hard day at the office today, but when I was there I was making $.75 for every $1.00 you made. In India I am still considered a burden, even if I do work, and cook, and make children, and practice modesty, and service. Is it that you want to see more men on TV, nice manly men, slapping around women, that just don't get it right?

    Ohhhh horrid multiculturalism! Let us be bigots! But, I want to be a wealthy, white, American bigot, though. No, I want to be a spiritually superior Native American bigot, complaining about the white mans ways. No, I want to be a Hindu bigot, complaining about the filth of the untouchables. No, I want to be a Male bigot, complaining about all the privileges that females get these days, females that wouldn't give me a second look on a street. No, I want to be an intellectual bigot, complaining about all the rubes, no, I want to be a female bigot, complaining about all the couch potato, sports enthusiasts in the world. No, I want to be smug, and sure that I am right and everyone else is wrong, I want to be superior, in every matter; in short, I want to be alone, with my little dolly people that do what I want in my daydreams; after all no one else is important but me.

    heavy feminism, multiculturalism, biodiversity, sentimentalism, anti-intellectualism/anti-scientific method, homosexuality, anti-guns, anti-male, etc.


    These are a lot of attributes, that don't match, that don't belong in the same milieu. But if you turn it all around, then it sounds like this...

    I want some submissive women, who are monocultural, who are bio-undiverse, with no feelings, that are intellectual, scientific, heterosexual, that like guns, and men. It sounds like you want some sort of masochistic, cowgirl, geologist, with low self esteem, to me.
     
  19. Feb 1, 2005 #18
    Really? And how much of your "etho, mores, or prejudices" are unique to you? Are not your own personal moral biases reflections of the particular society of which you would consider yourself "member"?
     
  20. Feb 1, 2005 #19
    I let my membership lapse. Now I don't meet the minimum entry requirements. I don't know what to do, maybe I should marry down. Even the insects can see me coming, these days, maybe I should look among the amoebae.
     
  21. Feb 1, 2005 #20

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    The society I belong to exhibits an enormous range of all three, much wider than the narrow viewpoints like "aren't women who are shown nude on TV ashamed?" My own beliefs are probably not very near the mode in any direction.
     
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