Have men been priced out of the dating market?

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The discussion centers on the evolving dynamics of dating and relationships, particularly the perceived value of men based on wealth and looks. It argues that historically, women married for economic security, but today, many women seek partners who are financially successful and attractive, leaving a significant number of men feeling undesirable. However, there are counterarguments emphasizing that personality, character, and the ability to make women feel valued are crucial in forming meaningful relationships, regardless of looks or income. Participants also highlight the limitations of online dating, suggesting it may not accurately reflect real-life dating scenarios. Ultimately, the conversation reveals a complex interplay between societal expectations, personal attributes, and dating success.
  • #91
Jamin2112 said:
A lot?
Six figures and up.
 
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  • #92
MarneMath said:
A woman may have options, but doesn't mean that she has to pick an option based on what you think is important. Some people on this forum have seen a picture of my wife and probably rate her as rather attractive. When I met her, she was dating a guy who drove a BMW 7 series, and probably made more in a year than I would in 5. At the time, I was a lowly sergeant in the Army. I had no plans to change that. Yet, she left the life of the rich and famous in NYC to live with me in the oh-so-awesome Savannah Georgia (actually an hour south of Savannah.)

In the end, if you can make a girl happy, you'll find how quickly money drops in importance. I may never be able to buy my wife everything she ever dreamed of, but I did make ever piece of furniture in our house and to her the effort I put into try to get her to smile is worth more than that BMW that guy had.
You come across here as having a great personality, slow to anger, you use your brains. Women like that,
 
  • #93
WannabeNewton said:
I need to find a man with a BMW. Maybe I can get my college tuition paid off and also get the new xbox.

Is that a proposition, wbn? :wink:
 
  • #94
DiracPool said:
Is that a proposition, wbn? :wink:
If you have a BMW then I'm ready for you to get on your knees.
 
  • #95
WannabeNewton said:
If you have a BMW then I'm ready for you to get on your knees.

Alright, sorry I encouraged this, Can we get back to the science?
 
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  • #96
You beast. I apologize, I couldn't resist.
 
  • #97
WannabeNewton said:
If you have a BMW then I'm ready for you to get on your knees.

Ummmm I think the usual arrangement in this type of scenario has a different person getting on their knees :rolleyes:
 
  • #98
Office_Shredder said:
Ummmm I think the usual arrangement in this type of scenario has a different person getting on their knees :rolleyes:

:smile: That's what I love about PF, people are so smart here
 
  • #99
Office_Shredder said:
Ummmm I think the usual arrangement in this type of scenario has a different person getting on their knees :rolleyes:
Or does it? DUN DUN DUUUN
 
  • #100
MarneMath said:
A woman may have options, but doesn't mean that she has to pick an option based on what you think is important. Some people on this forum have seen a picture of my wife and probably rate her as rather attractive. When I met her, she was dating a guy who drove a BMW 7 series, and probably made more in a year than I would in 5. At the time, I was a lowly sergeant in the Army. I had no plans to change that. Yet, she left the life of the rich and famous in NYC to live with me in the oh-so-awesome Savannah Georgia (actually an hour south of Savannah.)

In the end, if you can make a girl happy, you'll find how quickly money drops in importance. I may never be able to buy my wife everything she ever dreamed of, but I did make ever piece of furniture in our house and to her the effort I put into try to get her to smile is worth more than that BMW that guy had.
A good story and one people here should pay attention to.

I see too many guys posting here with the certainty they're screwed vis a vis women because of some ridiculous preconception they've bought into about what all women want. I've personally broken all those barriers. I've had girlfriends taller than me, richer than me, better looking than me. Whatever criteria women say they have is always tentative, subject to change depending on actual overall "chemistry".
 
  • #101
zoobyshoe said:
A good story and one people here should pay attention to.

I see too many guys posting here with the certainty they're screwed vis a vis women because of some ridiculous preconception they've bought into about what all women want. I've personally broken all those barriers. I've had girlfriends taller than me, richer than me, better looking than me. Whatever criteria women say they have is always tentative, subject to change depending on actual overall "chemistry".

That's pretty much it, women love to have that option of changing their mind. Makes me really frustrated after I bought them the diamonds and now they want pearls!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xij53e_prince-diamonds-and-pearls_people#.UbBio5rn_IU
 
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  • #102
MarneMath said:
I may never be able to buy my wife everything she ever dreamed of, but I did make ever piece of furniture in our house and to her the effort I put into try to get her to smile is worth more than that BMW that guy had.

awwww <3
 
  • #103
MarneMath said:
In the end, if you can make a girl happy, you'll find how quickly money drops in importance. I may never be able to buy my wife everything she ever dreamed of, but I did make ever piece of furniture in our house and to her the effort I put into try to get her to smile is worth more than that BMW that guy had.
Your wife sounds lucky to have you. :approve:
 
  • #104
In a sudden fit of enthusiasm, I got on a number of the more popular social/dating sites in my area. Anyone who has never done this before will find something quite telling. As a lower bound, there are 4 times as many ads from males than there are from females, and most of them seem like legit, real people. Almost all of the female ads are prostitute or scam ads. You'll find even worse statistics in random pair-up webcam chat rooms intended to meet people (certainly NSFW... I found out the hard way :S).

Oh, and well though this wasn't new to me, the biggest/oldest paid dating site in my part of the world (the equivalent of okcupid or similar) charges male members exclusively. Females pay no fees for contacting male members.
 
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  • #105
WannabeNewton said:
I need to find a man with a BMW. Maybe I can get my college tuition paid off and also get the new xbox.

I found your mate right in my hometown:

http://www.datanta.es/user-view_user-141708.html

It's a Mercedes, but close enough!
 
  • #107
I have a pretty face, but I'm flat broke. You can't have everything in life.
 
  • #108
Lavabug said:
I have a pretty face, but I'm flat broke. You can't have everything in life.
That's not what my 2nd grade teacher told me; I can have everything I want, that's what the education system taught me!
 
  • #109
WannabeNewton said:
I can't see his face :frown: What if he isn't pretty :cry:

True beauty is on the inside...
 
  • #110
dirk_mec1 said:
True beauty is on the inside...

of his wallet!
 
  • #111
dirk_mec1 said:
True beauty is on the inside...
Boooo give me something I can actually work with man
 
  • #112
WannabeNewton said:
Boooo give me something I can actually work with man

Ok, how about this:

All (feminist) women in my environment tell other women: "You don't need a man to be happy, living your life to the fullest and be independent makes you happy!"
 
  • #113
Lavabug said:
I have a pretty face, but I'm flat broke. You can't have everything in life.

I retract the first statement, apparently 48 women on social dating sites concur I'm ugly! There goes what was left of my self-esteem... and my account. :P
 
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  • #114
dirk_mec1 said:
Ok, how about this:

All (feminist) women in my environment tell other women: "You don't need a man to be happy, living your life to the fullest and be independent makes you happy!"

Yeah, I think they're wrong about that. Considering the amount of time, resources and energy most people put into finding a life partner, and the number of studies out there that conclude that married people are happier than single people, I'd say that statement doesn't stand up to empirical verification.
 
  • #115
Lavabug said:
I retract the first statement, apparently 48 women on social dating sites concur I'm ugly! There goes what was left of my self-esteem... and my account. :P

No-no-no, please don't put any consideration to faceless, anonymous opinions on the innerwebs! We know you here, and we like you a lot :smile:.
 
  • #116
daveyrocket said:
Yeah, I think they're wrong about that. Considering the amount of time, resources and energy most people put into finding a life partner,
That time energy and resources is mostly spend by men...

and the number of studies out there that conclude that married people are happier than single people,
That does not mean that this holds for all pepole :)

I'd say that statement doesn't stand up to empirical verification.
Maybe somebody should make another paper regarding this subject.
 
  • #117
lisab said:
No-no-no, please don't put any consideration to faceless, anonymous opinions on the innerwebs! We know you here, and we like you a lot :smile:.
You say that lisa because you can't see his face on PF
 
  • #118
dirk_mec1 said:
You say that lisa because you can't see his face on PF

Absolutely. And the voters were definitely not faceless or anonymous!

I apologize for the cuss. :P
 
  • #119
Baby youuuuu're amaaziiiiing juuuuust the waaaaaaaaay you aaaaaaaaaaaaare
 

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