Work done by a force going around a circle ?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to work done by a force in circular motion, specifically focusing on energy conservation principles involving potential and kinetic energy. The original poster references a specific question from a paper and seeks clarification on the calculation of resistive work done.

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  • The original poster outlines their approach using energy conservation equations but expresses confusion regarding the calculation of resistive work done (Fs) and the role of 2pi in the context of circular motion. Other participants reiterate the need to clarify the distance traveled in relation to the circular path.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify specific components of the problem, particularly the interpretation of the formula for resistive work done and the significance of the circular motion parameters. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distance calculation, but further explanation is still needed.

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I have a problem with question 4 part (iv) which is on here http://www.mei.org.uk/files/papers/m208ju_ail7.pdf

Basically, I used Ep(initial) + Ek(initial) + W(Forward) = Ep(Final) + Ek(final) + W(Resistive) equation, where Ep is the potential energy, Ek the kinetic energy and W is the work done.
This finalized to mgh + 1/2mu2 = 1/2mv2 + Fs (since there is no forward work done and h = 0 at the lowest point)

I worked values of the equation:
mgh = 0.15 x 9.8 x 0.4679
1/2mu2 = 1/2 x 0.15 x 2.52
1/2mv2 = 1/2 x 0.15 x v2 <-- need to find v

Fs is the problem; The mark scheme says that Fs = 0.6 x 40/360 x 2pi x 2

I understand that it must be that 0.6 acts over 40/360 of the circle, and then the distance from A to the lowest point is 2m as I've previously worked out, so this is the s. What I don't understand is 2pi, and whether the 2pi relates to the distance or the force... Could anybody explain how Fs, the resistive work done, can be equal to that and maybe give an equation for working out work done when it acts in circular motion?

Thank you for reading and please if you could help me with my question I would really appreciate it...
 
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Tangeton said:
I have a problem with question 4 part (iv) which is on here http://www.mei.org.uk/files/papers/m208ju_ail7.pdf

Basically, I used Ep(initial) + Ek(initial) + W(Forward) = Ep(Final) + Ek(final) + W(Resistive) equation, where Ep is the potential energy, Ek the kinetic energy and W is the work done.
This finalized to mgh + 1/2mu2 = 1/2mv2 + Fs (since there is no forward work done and h = 0 at the lowest point)

I worked values of the equation:
mgh = 0.15 x 9.8 x 0.4679
1/2mu2 = 1/2 x 0.15 x 2.52
1/2mv2 = 1/2 x 0.15 x v2 <-- need to find v

Fs is the problem; The mark scheme says that Fs = 0.6 x 40/360 x 2pi x 2

I understand that it must be that 0.6 acts over 40/360 of the circle, and then the distance from A to the lowest point is 2m as I've previously worked out, so this is the s.

The distance you want is that traveled by the sphere from B to the lowest point, which is 40/360 of the circumference of a circle of radius 2m.

What I don't understand is 2pi, and whether the 2pi relates to the distance or the force... Could anybody explain how Fs, the resistive work done, can be equal to that and maybe give an equation for working out work done when it acts in circular motion?

Thank you for reading and please if you could help me with my question I would really appreciate it...
 
Can anyone explain 2pi?
 
Tangeton said:
Can anyone explain 2pi?
pasmith explained already:
pasmith said:
The distance you want is that traveled by the sphere from B to the lowest point, which is 40/360 of the circumference of a circle of radius 2m.
Look at the part after "40/360".
 

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