Work Done by Horses & Friction on Canal Boat

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Two horses are pulling a canal boat at a constant speed, with one horse exerting a force of 300 N at a 20º angle and the other 500 N. The work done by each horse is calculated using the x-component of their forces multiplied by the distance of 10,000 meters. The discussion highlights that since the boat moves at constant velocity, the friction force must equal the total force exerted by the horses in the opposite direction. The participants clarify the need to ensure the y-components of the forces are balanced to prevent the boat from hitting the canal sides. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between constant velocity, net force, and the work done by friction.
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Two horses on either side of a canal pull a canal boat of mass 1.0*10^4 kg at a constant speed for a distance of 10.0 km. (Figure 7.32). One horse exerts a force of 3.0*10^2 N at an angle of 20º to the canal, and the other exerts 5.0 * 102 N. Find the work done by each horse and the work done by friction between the boat and the water.

I believe I would set it up like this:
Call the direction parallel to the canal the x axis
The work of a horse whose angle is given will be the x-component of the force * distance in meters
W_{horse1}=cos(20)*3*10^2N*10000m

The work done by the horse whose angle is not given will be the same as the first horse. Again, it will be the x-component of the force, which will be equal to Horse 1's x-component, and although the question doesn't ask for it, I could now compute Horse 2's angle.

But the work done by the friction between the boat and the water? I don't know how to solve that? What if the question said they were on ice instead of water?

The best I can come up with is
W_{friction}=Force_{friction} * 10000 meters
 
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First, your assumption that the forces in the x-direction does not seem sound to me. On the contrary, I would expect the forces in the y-direction to be the same, but with opposite sign, and then the force in the x-direction of the second horse to be determined after that. I am missing the figure, and also I think there is a mistype, but am not sure (is the second horse actually exerting 5.0 * 10^2N?), so I may not have all necessary information.

Secondly, as to your question about the work that friction does, I hope you don't mind me asking this question: If an object is at a constant velocity for a period of time, what is the net work that has been done on it? Or better yet, if this object is at a constant velocity, what is the net force on it, and what does that mean for the work done?

Hope this helps.
 
To find the force of friction use

\Sigma F= ma

if the velocity is constant, then acceleration=0.

[edit] I'm too slow...
 
Thanks, that does help. You're right about the typo 5.0*102 = 5.0*10^2.

Thinking about it, it does make more sense that the y-components should be equal or the boat will hit the side of the canal.

So after setting the y's equal, I have to compute both horses' x-components of force.

You're right, the constant velocity is the key. Water friction must equal the horses pulls but in the opposite direction or there'd be acceleration.

Thanks Locrain!
 
Gale17 said:
[edit] I'm too slow...
but helpful nonetheless. Thanks, Gale!
 
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