Work Done by Person Carrying Groceries Up a Staircase

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The problem involves calculating the work done by a person carrying groceries up a spiral staircase, which has a helical shape with a specified radius and vertical climb. The scenario includes the mass of the person and groceries, as well as the gravitational force acting on them.

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  • Participants discuss whether the calculation of work done should only consider the vertical distance traveled, questioning the relevance of the staircase's helical shape. There is also debate about the sign of the work done, with some suggesting it should be positive while others reflect on the implications of negative work.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the calculations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the vertical distance and the nature of work done against gravity, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are considering the implications of the gravitational force and the direction of the applied force in relation to the work done. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the sign of the work calculated.

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Homework Statement


A spiral staircase in a building is in the shape of a helix of radius 5 meters. Between two floors of the building, the stairs make one full revolution and climb by 4 meters. A person carries a bag of grocers up two floors. The combined mass of the persona and groceries is 70 kg and the gravitational force is 70g downward. Calculate the amount of work done by the person against gravity

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Is the answer just -mgh = -560g ? Don't we only have to take into account the vertical distance traveled, and the information about the spiral is irrelevant?
 
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Mr Davis 97 said:

Homework Statement


A spiral staircase in a building is in the shape of a helix of radius 5 meters. Between two floors of the building, the stairs make one full revolution and climb by 4 meters. A person carries a bag of grocers up two floors. The combined mass of the persona and groceries is 70 kg and the gravitational force is 70g downward. Calculate the amount of work done by the person against gravity

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Is the answer just -mgh = -560g ? Don't we only have to take into account the vertical distance traveled, and the information about the spiral is irrelevant?
I think you have the right idea, but wouldn't it be 280 g (in nt-m)? The helical stairway doesn't enter into the calculation -- just the change in vertical position.
 
Mark44 said:
I think you have the right idea, but wouldn't it be 280 g (in nt-m)? The helical stairway doesn't enter into the calculation -- just the change in vertical position.
Yeah, I think you're right. Also, why would it positive as opposed to negative?
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Yeah, I think you're right. Also, why would it positive as opposed to negative?
He's applying a force in the opposite direction of the gravitational force. In any case, it seems unusual that the work done would be a negative quantity, but then it's been a long time since I took physics.
 
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