Work done by the tension on a cable

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by the tension in a crane cable lifting a 1250 kg load at a constant speed over a distance of 8 m. The key equation for work is identified as W = F x d, where F represents the force exerted. Participants clarify that the force in this scenario is the weight of the load, calculated as mass times gravitational acceleration (9.81 m/s²). The correct calculation for work done is established as 98100 J, based on the weight of the load multiplied by the distance lifted. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding force and work in the context of constant velocity lifting.
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Homework Statement



A crane lifts a 1250 kg load directly upward with a constant speed through a vertical
distance of 8 m. How much work is done by the tension in the crane cable?

Homework Equations



Im thinking its the work equation but this is were i got stuck

W = m(as)

The Attempt at a Solution



got confused right away on this one my thinking is

m = 1250
s = 8
a = is this zero seeing as its constant?
 
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discosucks said:
Im thinking its the work equation but this is were i got stuck
discosucks said:
W = m(as)
Where did you get that formula?

What's the most basic definition of work?
 
work is when a force moves its point of application through a distance .

isnt that the same as W = Fs?
 
discosucks said:
work is when a force moves its point of application through a distance .

isnt that the same as W = Fs?
That's the equation that you need. What's "F" in this problem?
 
Doc Al said:
That's the equation that you need. What's "F" in this problem?

force? and that would be the mass x the acceleration

but what do i say the acceleration is seeing as I am told its constant?
 
discosucks said:
force?
What force? (What force is doing the work in this problem?)

discosucks said:
and that would be the mass x the acceleration
No. Mass x acceleration gives you the net force on something.

discosucks said:
but what do i say the acceleration is seeing as I am told its constant?
The acceleration would be zero.
 
Im pretty confused now lol but I'm going to say its gravitational force bearing down ?
 
Draw a FBD. Find the FT and then plug and chug into W = F x d
 
discosucks said:
Im pretty confused now lol but I'm going to say its gravitational force bearing down ?

In order to be simple, physics exercises are often unrealistic. To lift a real object, a real crane probabily doesn't raise it at a constant velocity. In a real situation there is a fluctuating imbalance of forces, so there are small accelerations (and decelerations) of the load as it rises.

In this problem, you are told the obejct is lifted with a constant velocity. Theoretically, to lift a object with a constant velocity, you could exert a force on it that exactly cancels gravity. (Tie a big helium balloon to it.) The object would be "levitated". Then you give the object a nudge and it would move upward at a constant velocity. There would be no net force on the object. One can still ask what work is done just by force that is canceling gravity. That work is non-zero.

You have to pretend the crane is levitating the object and you have to ignore whatever work was done to start the object on its way up with a constant velocity.
 
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discosucks said:
Im pretty confused now lol but I'm going to say its gravitational force bearing down ?
You're asked to find the work done by the tension, so you need the tension. (Since the acceleration is zero, that tension will equal the weight of the object.)
 
  • #11
So its just the weight by the distance seing as the acceleration is zero?

1250 x 8 = 10000 J ?
 
  • #12
discosucks said:
So its just the weight by the distance seing as the acceleration is zero?
Yes.

discosucks said:
1250 x 8 = 10000 J ?
1250 is not the weight.
 
  • #13
Sorry i think i get it now

the weight is the mass times gravity

1250 x 9.81 =12262.5

12262.5 x 8 = 98100 J .
 
  • #14
Good!
 
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