MHB Work energy principle and power

AI Thread Summary
To find the average power generated by a car of mass 1200 kg accelerating up a 10-degree incline, the calculations involve determining the acceleration, force exerted by the engine, and the work done. The initial speed is 10 m/s, and the final speed is 12 m/s after 60 seconds, leading to an average velocity of 11 m/s. The average power can be calculated using the work-energy principle, which includes changes in kinetic and gravitational potential energy. The textbook answer is 36,000 W, while some users reported different values, indicating a need for careful calculation and consideration of all forces involved.
Shah 72
MHB
Messages
274
Reaction score
0
A car of mass 1200 kg accelerates up a hill inclined at 10 degree to the horizontal. The car has initial speed of 10 m/ s and final speed of 12 m/s after 60 s. Air resistance and friction may be ignored. Find the average power generated by the engine.
The and in the textbook is 36000 W, iam not able to do. Pls help
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
Shah 72 said:
A car of mass 1200 kg accelerates up a hill inclined at 10 degree to the horizontal. The car has initial speed of 10 m/ s and final speed of 12 m/s after 60 s. Air resistance and friction may be ignored. Find the average power generated by the engine.
The and in the textbook is 36000 W, iam not able to do. Pls help
Again what have you been able to do? You've posted a large number of these questions and have learned nothing about how to start? How about a diagram and a statement of the work energy theorem? See what you can do, then if you still are getting an incorrect answer post what you have done and we can look it over.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Again what have you been able to do? You've posted a large number of these questions and have learned nothing about how to start? How about a diagram and a statement of the work energy theorem? See what you can do, then if you still are getting an incorrect answer post what you have done and we can look it over.

-Dan
Iam getting the ans 31180W, but textbook ans is 3600W
I first calculated acceleration using v= u+at and got a= 0.033m/s^2
Then calculated F- 16000sin10=1600×0.033 and got the ans F=2831.7N
Then calculated s using v^2= u^2+2as and got s= 660.67m
Avg power= work done/ time
Iam not getting the right ans. Pls help
 
A car of mass 1200 kg accelerates up a hill inclined at 10 degree to the horizontal. The car has initial speed of 10 m/ s and final speed of 12 m/s after 60 s. Air resistance and friction may be ignored. Find the average power generated by the engine.

Shah 72 said:
Iam getting the ans 31180W, but textbook ans is 3600W

Well, I'm not getting either of those values. First off, some basic values ...

$a = \dfrac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \dfrac{1}{30} \, m/s^2$

$v_{avg} = \dfrac{v_0+v_f}{2} = 11 \, m/s$

$\Delta x = v_{avg} \cdot \Delta t = 660 \, m$method 1

$P_{avg} = \dfrac{\text{total work done by the engine}}{\text{elapsed time}}$

$P = \dfrac{\Delta KE + \Delta GPE}{\Delta t}$

$\color{red} P = \dfrac{\frac{1}{2}m(v_f^2-v_0^2) + mg \Delta x \cdot \sin{\theta}}{\Delta t}$

method 2

$P_{avg} = (\text{force exerted by the engine})(\text{avg velocity}) = F_e \cdot v_{avg}$

$F_e - mg\sin{\theta} = ma \implies F_e = m(g\sin{\theta} + a)$

$\color{red} P = m(g\sin{\theta}+a) \cdot v_{avg}$
 
skeeter said:
Well, I'm not getting either of those values. First off, some basic values ...

$a = \dfrac{\Delta v}{\Delta t} = \dfrac{1}{30} \, m/s^2$

$v_{avg} = \dfrac{v_0+v_f}{2} = 11 \, m/s$

$\Delta x = v_{avg} \cdot \Delta t = 660 \, m$method 1

$P_{avg} = \dfrac{\text{total work done by the engine}}{\text{elapsed time}}$

$P = \dfrac{\Delta KE + \Delta GPE}{\Delta t}$

$\color{red} P = \dfrac{\frac{1}{2}m(v_f^2-v_0^2) + mg \Delta x \cdot \sin{\theta}}{\Delta t}$

method 2

$P_{avg} = (\text{force exerted by the engine})(\text{avg velocity}) = F_e \cdot v_{avg}$

$F_e - mg\sin{\theta} = ma \implies F_e = m(g\sin{\theta} + a)$

$\color{red} P = m(g\sin{\theta}+a) \cdot v_{avg}$
Thank you!
 
Insights auto threads is broken atm, so I'm manually creating these for new Insight articles. In Dirac’s Principles of Quantum Mechanics published in 1930 he introduced a “convenient notation” he referred to as a “delta function” which he treated as a continuum analog to the discrete Kronecker delta. The Kronecker delta is simply the indexed components of the identity operator in matrix algebra Source: https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/what-exactly-is-diracs-delta-function/ by...
Suppose ,instead of the usual x,y coordinate system with an I basis vector along the x -axis and a corresponding j basis vector along the y-axis we instead have a different pair of basis vectors ,call them e and f along their respective axes. I have seen that this is an important subject in maths My question is what physical applications does such a model apply to? I am asking here because I have devoted quite a lot of time in the past to understanding convectors and the dual...
Thread 'Imaginary Pythagorus'
I posted this in the Lame Math thread, but it's got me thinking. Is there any validity to this? Or is it really just a mathematical trick? Naively, I see that i2 + plus 12 does equal zero2. But does this have a meaning? I know one can treat the imaginary number line as just another axis like the reals, but does that mean this does represent a triangle in the complex plane with a hypotenuse of length zero? Ibix offered a rendering of the diagram using what I assume is matrix* notation...

Similar threads

Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
865
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
16
Views
2K
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Back
Top