Work-Energy Theorem rock throw Question

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The discussion revolves around applying the work-energy theorem to a problem involving a 20-N rock thrown vertically. The participant correctly identifies the mass of the rock as 2.04 kg and calculates the kinetic energy at 15 m height with a speed of 25 m/s, yielding 637.5 J. They initially struggle with determining the total work done on the rock, mistakenly considering an upward force while recognizing that only gravity acts on it after it leaves the hand. The correct approach involves calculating the work done by gravity as negative, leading to a total work of -300 J, which can then be used to find the initial speed and maximum height. This clarification emphasizes the importance of understanding the forces acting on the rock after it is thrown.
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This is the problem:
You throw a 20-N rock vertically into the air from ground level. You observe that when it is 15.0 m above the ground, it is traveling at 25.0 m/s upward. Use the work-energy theorem to find a) its speed just as it left the ground; b) its maximum height.

I drew a free-body diagram with an unknown force F pointing upwards, and the mg = 20 N pointing down. I also found the mass of the object by using 20 N = mg to get m = 2.04 kg.

I know that the work theorem is W(total) = K2 - K1, with K = (1/2)m(v)^2. I figured out K2 with the given 25.0 m/s and the 2.04 kg, which came out to be 637.5 J. Because I'm trying to find the initial speed, K1 looked like this = (1/2)(2.04 kg)(v1)^2. I tried to find out what W(total) was to complete this problem, but then became stuck because, in W = Fs, I didn't know what F was. I couldn't calculate F = ma in the vertical direction because I didn't have an acceleration. How do I go about figuring out W(total) from this information?

Thanks!
 
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Why there should be an unknown force F pointing upwards as the rock is rising?
 
I was thinking there would be a force upwards because it was thrown up into the air.

Is there another way I should be looking at this?
 
hollystella said:
I drew a free-body diagram with an unknown force F pointing upwards, and the mg = 20 N pointing down.
As soon as the rock leaves contact with your hand, the only force on it is gravity (ignoring air resistance, of course).
 
I see...

So then W(total) = (20 N) * (15 m)? Then W(total) would be 300 J. Then I would be able to put that into W(tot) = K2 - K1, find what K1 is and then equate that to (1/2)m*(v1)^2 to find the initial speed.

Is that right?
 
Yes, but realize that the work done on the rock is negative since the force (down) and the displacement (up) are in opposite directions.
 
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