Work. Positive, Negative, or Zero

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The problem involves determining whether the total work done on an elevator, which is being hoisted at a constant speed, is zero, negative, or positive. The context includes concepts from mechanics, particularly relating to forces, work, and energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the elevator, including tension and gravity, and their respective contributions to work. Some question how the direction of forces and displacement affects the total work, while others explore the implications of defining gravity as negative.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that the work done by tension is positive while the work done by gravity is negative, leading to a total work of zero. Others are clarifying the definitions and relationships between the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the coordinate system established by defining gravity as negative, which influences the interpretation of the forces and their work contributions.

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1. The Problem:
An elevator is hoisted by its cables at a constant speed is the total work zero, negative, or positive?
2. Homework Equations :
g= -9.81m/s2
3. The Attempt at a Solution
I'm thinking that since the weight of the elevator is in downward direction along with the acceleration of gravity also in the downward direction, that the tension in the cables and the displacement of the elevator should even out and. Thus the answer is zero though I'm not sure.
 
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your lucky you stated g is negative. Therefore work is postitive as it goes in the direction of the force applied.
 
Ohh since the tension and the displacement are in the positive direction, that makes the work done positive because they are opposing the natural acceleration of gravity?
 
the tension is the force in this situation, and the displacement is the distance moved. The direction of the displacement does not effect the direction of the momentum, Momentum always follows the force. This is because sometimes you may have a non straight line direction and you need to find the components. The only reason the tenstion is considered the positive direction is because you stated that gravity is -9.81 and tension opposes it. By saying gravity is negative, you set up a coordinate system.
 
To be clear, the question asks for the total work (work done by all forces), which is zero. The tension force in the cable, acting up, is equal to the weight (gravity) force, acting down, in accordance with Newton's first law. The tension force does positive work (force and displacement are in same direction), and the gravity force does negative work (force and displacement are in opposite direction). Since the magnitude of the forces and displacement are the same, the work done by the tension force plus the work done by gravity equals 0.
 

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