Working Examples RLC Circuit with 5V Ramp Voltage Laplace Transforms

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The discussion focuses on working examples of current expressions in a series RLC circuit subjected to a ramp voltage, utilizing Laplace transforms. Participants explore the mathematical formulation and decomposition techniques relevant to the circuit's response.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests working examples of current expressions for a series RLC circuit with specified parameters using Laplace transforms.
  • Another participant provides a voltage conservation equation and derives the Laplace transform for the current function, noting the assumption of zero initial conditions.
  • Several participants express confusion regarding the manipulation of terms in the Laplace domain, particularly concerning the need to multiply by \( s^2 \) for proper fraction decomposition.
  • There is a discussion on the process of fraction decomposition, with one participant suggesting resources for further understanding.
  • One participant shares their result for the current expression, which includes an exponential and trigonometric components, but questions the correctness of their approach.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the mathematical processes involved, particularly in fraction decomposition. No consensus is reached on the correctness of the derived expressions or the steps taken to arrive at them.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate uncertainty about the application of Laplace transform techniques and the assumptions made during the derivation process. There are unresolved questions about the accuracy of the mathematical manipulations performed.

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can anyone give me the working examples of current expressions of series RLC circuit using ramp voltage by Laplace transforms. thanks

R=15, L= 0.4H, C=12uF ...voltage 5v
 
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You write a conservation of voltage around the loop:

-v(t) + Ri(t) + L\frac{di}{dt} + \frac{1}{c} \int i(t) \, dt=0

Take the Laplace of both sides:

-V(s) + R I(s) + LsI(s) + \frac{1}{cs}I(s)= 0

Solve for your sought after function of current:

I(s) = \frac{V(s)}{R + Ls + \frac{1}{cs}}

Remember, this solution assumes initial conditions equal to zero.
 
i stuck on the 1/s^2 [r + sL + 1/sC] ...do we need multiply all inside the bracket by s^2?
 
Cooler said:
i stuck on the 1/s^2 [r + sL + 1/sC] ...do we need multiply all inside the bracket by s^2?

Yes. Then you will most likely need to do fraction decomposition. The trick will be putting the answer in a form present in your Laplace tables.
 
i don't get the fraction decomposition...

when i multiplied inside the bracket it gives me...(15s^2 + 0.4s^3 + 83.333x10^3 s) is this correct and what to do next?
 
Cooler said:
i don't get the fraction decomposition...

when i multiplied inside the bracket it gives me...(15s^2 + 0.4s^3 + 83.333x10^3 s) is this correct and what to do next?

I(s) = \frac{1}{s(Ls^2 + Rs + \frac{1}{c})}=-\frac{c^2(R+sL)}{cLs^2+cRs+1}+\frac{c}{s}
 
sorry i don't get the idea of how it end up that way...mind to explain? thnks
 
Have you googled for tutorials yet? Google "fraction decomposition" or "partial fraction decomposition"

http://www.purplemath.com/modules/partfrac.htm

Essentially, it is a procedure for reversing the addition of two fractions.

so you can say a/b + c/d = (ad + bc)/(bd)

but in partial, you start with the right hand side and find the left hand side.Effectively (though it's not the complete picture), b = s and d = (ls^2 + rs + 1/c). And the reason I chose to only distribute 1 of the s in s^2 is that 1/s and 1/(as^2+bs+c) are usually in Laplace tables.
 
What answer did you get?

my answer is 7.5x10^-4[ 1 - e^-18.75t(cos 456.05t + 41.11x10^-3 sin 456.05t)
 

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