Would it be possible to detect change in charge?

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The discussion explores the possibility of detecting changes in unitary charge values, suggesting that if the charge of protons and electrons were to change, it could be detected through the effects on electromagnetic forces. The concept of interconnected charges implies that any change would propagate at the speed of light, potentially impacting measurements. The fine-structure constant is highlighted as a critical factor, indicating that if it changes, it could signal a change in unitary charge, although distinguishing the cause of such a change remains complex. Current precision allows for the detection of significant deviations, estimated at around 10^-17 per year. Ultimately, while unitary charge may be constant, changes in dimensionless constants could still be measurable.
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I was trying to think about charge and I am curious. It seems that there is unitary charge - +1 for protons and -1 for electrons. But is it possible to say that it is constant in time? I mean would it be possible to detect changes in unitary charge value? size?

Let us say that all charges are interconnected. So if charge of one proton will change from +1 to +1,5 this will gradualy change all other charges at speed of light, so every electron will change its charge to -1,5, proton to +1,5 and so on over time, would it be possible to detect that such event happened?
 
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You might want to look up "Fractional Quantum Hall Effect". In such experiments, the many-body effects caused the flow of charge to appear as if they are in units of e/3.

So yes, if the unit charge changes, we CAN detect it. There is no reason that we can't.

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The force between charged objects would increase, this can be detected.

If you weaken the electromagnetic force and increase the charge everywhere at the same time by a corresponding amount (and somehow fix the influence of all photons flying around in a similar way), you would not measure any change.
 
minio said:
I mean would it be possible to detect changes in unitary charge value? size?
As long as the fine structure constant changes, yes, we could detect a change. What we could not do is definitely say that the change in the fine structure constant is due to a change in the elementary charge instead of Planck's constant.
 
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So if I understand it correctly unitary charge is either constant or we would detect changes in fine structure constant, thus we could assume that unitary charge is constant whaterver charge actually is?
 
The fundamental quantity here is the fine-structure constant. And yes, it would be possible to measure a deviation if it is large enough.
"Large enough" is something like a relative change 10-17/year with current precision (Reference).
 
minio said:
So if I understand it correctly unitary charge is either constant or we would detect changes in fine structure constant, thus we could assume that unitary charge is constant whaterver charge actually is?
Yes. The same is true of all dimensionful physical constants. What we would actually be able to measure would be changes to the dimensionless physical constants, and then we could arbitrarily assign that change to one or more of the dimensionful physical constants that make up the dimensionless constant.
 
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